Lilly- (CBER Azrael)

[crum]

THIS PORTION OF THE THREAD IS FROM THE OLD CBER MESSAGE BOARD...
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AZREAL- PENDING!
Post by foxie on Aug 22, 2006, 10:08am

Status: Available Price: $800 Arrived: 8/22/2006
Age: older Height: 15.3h Weight:
Gender: Mare Primary Color: flea bitten gray Secondary Color:
Type: Draft Breed: Percheron Registration:
Condition: Temperament: Training:

Older grey/white draft type mare. 15.3 hands, almost as wide as she is tall! Is a good girl and was very nice in her makeshift halter, we even got her to trot with us in it.When she bows her neck she looks like an old circus horse! She let us pick up her feet briefly and was gentle to handle. We were told she had been driven, but can't confirm at this time of course. Her feet need to be trimmed and they have broken off in places. We do not know if she is just really fat or if she is possibly pregnant.

UPDATE: We trotted her up the concrete alley and she was a little off. It was hard to tell which leg she's off on, and her feet are badly chipped and we're not sure if that's why she's off.


Name of horse - Azreal

Adopter - Cared for by crum in Oregon!

Bail amount- $800.00

Bail pledged-
$ 50.00 from
$ 25.00 from shelbert
Contact Vickie for more information at: [e-mail]

Arrived: 8/22/2006
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Re: Azrea - Just Arrived - $800 Needed
Post by sissycat96101 on Aug 22, 2006, 11:12am

if it comes down to a home for this girl please let me know ,i may be able to help.
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Re: Azrea - Just Arrived - $750 Needed
Post by cybercat on Aug 26, 2006, 10:43am

just sent one time donation to Azreal through the CBER store
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Re: Azrea - $750 Needed
Post by cybercat on Aug 27, 2006, 1:03pm

looks like sissycat made a home offer...can anyone else help Azreal? I'd do more if I could, but I cannot in good conscience
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Re: Azreal - $750 Needed- Has Tentative Home Offe
Post by sissycat96101 on Aug 27, 2006, 6:32pm

i am willing to give her a home if bail is made and no place to go.
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Re: Azreal - $750 Needed- Has Tentative Home Offe
Post by cybercat on Aug 27, 2006, 6:50pm

Thank you, sissycat! The good Karma fairy is rewarding you for your home offer to Azreal...
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Re: Azreal - $750 Needed- Has Tentative Home Offe
Post by crum on Aug 27, 2006, 9:34pm

If someone wants to adopt this mare and is just short of cash right this minute please PM me. I might be able to loan some funds.
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Re: Azreal - $750 Needed- Has Tentative Home Offe
Post by sissycat96101 on Aug 28, 2006, 7:45am

draft76 hope thats right has offered a home for azreal if bailed as well as to pay her shipping to her.
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Re: Azreal - $750 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by cybercat on Aug 28, 2006, 10:34pm

draft76 still wants Azreal...can we help her?
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Re: Azreal - $750 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by shelberttk2 on Aug 28, 2006, 11:52pm

I call her my little tea pot pony...will pitch in $25..not much, but I'm broke...dang school shopping and broken arms!
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Re: Azreal - $750 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by shelberttk2 on Aug 28, 2006, 11:53pm

I stinking love this mare...I don't know why...I posted this on CBER...everytime I see her I start humming "I'm a little tea pot"....I mean it guys...I LOVE THIS GAL AND I WANT PICTURES AND LOTS OF UPDATES AND MAYBE EVEN PARTIAL CUSTODY? HEEHEEHEE! You think I"m kidding?!......
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Re: Azreal - $750 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by crum on Aug 29, 2006, 7:28am

There seems to be no interest in the offer of a loan I made for this mare.
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Re: Azreal - $750 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by sissycat96101 on Aug 29, 2006, 7:57am

since draft76 is still intrested and trying to work it out i am going to with draw my home offer for azreal ,but am willing to make a backup home offer for corona .
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Re: Azreal - $750 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by cybercat on Aug 29, 2006, 8:16am

thanks, sissycat- haven't heard anything from draft76 yet today...
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Re: Azreal - $750 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by sissycat96101 on Aug 29, 2006, 8:18am

i will keep watching thought just in case.
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Re: Azreal - $750 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by cybercat on Aug 29, 2006, 8:19am

Thanks!
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Re: Azreal - $750 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by sissycat96101 on Aug 29, 2006, 10:35am

bump.
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Re: Azreal - $750 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by cybercat on Aug 29, 2006, 10:39am

sissycat will still act as back-up for Azreal if we can get her bailed and sissy would need a place for Azreal to hang out until arrangements could be made...

That is, of course, if draft76 is unable to take Azreal...
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Re: Azreal - $750 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by sissycat96101 on Aug 29, 2006, 12:30pm

a bump for the rollie pollie girl agian.
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Re: Azreal - $750 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by sissycat96101 on Aug 29, 2006, 1:07pm

bump
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Re: Azreal - $750 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by sissycat96101 on Aug 29, 2006, 2:15pm

bump.
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Re: Azreal - $750 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by crum on Aug 29, 2006, 4:06pm

I have talked to sissycat96101. If nothing else happens for this girl there is sort of a backup plan for her in place. I'm trying to hash somethings out here. If that doesn't work out then I'm loaning the funds to sissycat96101 to get her. However if anyone is interested please don't let this stop you from adopting her.


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Re: Azreal - $750 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by cybercat on Aug 29, 2006, 4:09pm

thank you, crum...sissycat has been trying so hard all day....
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Re: Azreal - $750 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by sissycat96101 on Aug 29, 2006, 4:55pm

thankyou crum and ccat for seeing this through,i hope she will be out of that place soon and in a home ,somewhere other than the lot.
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Re: Azreal - $750 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by bridget on Aug 29, 2006, 5:03pm

I hope this big girl gets safely off the lot.
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Re: Azreal - $750 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by sissycat96101 on Aug 29, 2006, 8:04pm

she has a 25.00 pledge on the main board,thanks for helping.
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Re: Azreal - $750 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by sissycat96101 on Aug 29, 2006, 8:23pm

bump.
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Re: Azreal - $750 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by sissycat96101 on Aug 29, 2006, 8:38pm

bumping azreal agian.
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Re: Azreal - $725 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by shelberttk2 on Aug 29, 2006, 10:50pm

I sent the money to the one time donation option--was it supposed to be to the general pull fund? Crud! I'm an idiot! What to do now?!
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Re: Azreal - $725 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by pekipoos on Aug 30, 2006, 2:06am

This is such an incredible mare. Someone bring her to me.. LOL.. of course I am NOT approved by CBER, but I would absolutely love to have this girl. Is she broke to ride? <sigh> I have such a sick feeling.. please dont let her go to the bad place!
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Re: Azreal - $725 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by swissgrl on Aug 30, 2006, 2:10am

there is just something special about this girl, isn't there...!!!!!
Sissycat I hope this works out for you.
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Re: Azreal - $725 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by sissycat96101 on Aug 30, 2006, 7:35am

swissgrl there is your right and thats why i won't give up until she is safe.
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Re: Azreal - $725 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by hoofnoter on Aug 30, 2006, 7:53am
Does anyone know for sure if there is behind the scene scheming for Azreal or is it as desperate now as it ever was for her?
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Re: Azreal - $725 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by draft76 on Aug 30, 2006, 9:44am

HAY GUYS GOT BUGS ON COMPUTER COULDN'T PULL ANYTHING UP I WAS SO SCARED ANYTHING ON THIS GAL I CAN CATCH A RIDE UP THERE THIS WEEKEND HELP HELP
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Re: Azreal - $725 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by draft76 on Aug 30, 2006, 9:47am

CRUM DID SISSYCAT AND YOU WORK IT OUT? IS SHE SAFE LET ME KNOW HAD BAD DREAMS ON THIS ONE GET HER THE HELL OUT OF THERE!!!!
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Re: Azreal - $725 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by draft76 on Aug 30, 2006, 9:50am

GO SISSYCAT GO !!!!! YOU CAN DO IT SENDING WISHIES YOUR WAY!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Azreal - $725 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by sissycat96101 on Aug 30, 2006, 9:53am

we are working on it ,hope soon she will be on her way.
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Re: Azreal - $725 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by sissycat96101 on Aug 30, 2006, 11:25am

you will be happy to know that azreal is bailed and will be coming home soon,thanks for haning in there ccat,crum,hoofnoter.
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Re: Azreal - $725 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by EileenM on Aug 30, 2006, 11:30am

Sweet !!!
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Re: Azreal - $725 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by sissycat96101 on Aug 30, 2006, 11:47am

ok first things first she needs a new name so anyone got an idea.
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Re: Azreal - $725 Needed- Has Home Offers
Post by pekipoos on Aug 30, 2006, 11:55am

Thank you sissycat!!!! YAH!! She is going to a new home.
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Re: AZREAL- PENDING!
Post by tireddog on Aug 30, 2006, 12:39pm

Luna ... Bella Luna! Or Stella Luna. She is big and beautiful, like a full moon.
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Re: AZREAL- PENDING!
Post by EileenM on Aug 30, 2006, 12:39pm

Mucho Bella Luna
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Re: AZREAL- PENDING!
Post by cybercat on Aug 30, 2006, 12:40pm

OK, here's a name...its dorky, but I think it fits...

'Merangue' as in lemon merangue pie. She looks FLUFFY- like merangue...she looks WHITE- like merangue...she looks SWEET- like merangue...

she looks LIGHT- like merangue (NOT!) Oh well....can you tell that I haven't had lunch yet? Getting hungry here....
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Re: AZREAL- PENDING!
Post by sissycat96101 on Aug 30, 2006, 12:56pm

stella hey thats good. ccat you better eat soon.lol....
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Re: AZREAL- PENDING!
Post by sissycat96101 on Aug 31, 2006, 8:07am

azreal is getting off the lot today to awiat her ride home,can't wait for her to get her .
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Re: AZREAL- PENDING!
Post by tireddog on Aug 31, 2006, 12:02pm

Sam and Gus, my two sons, helped me medicate Lady Officer Flo's eyes and abscess this morning. While we were with the horses, Sam thought of a name for Azreal: Kitten! It was really cute ... He said, "You know what a great name for that big, white draft horse would be? Kitten!" He is a cat-lover, I have to admit, and is helping a friend of ours with her 501(c) cat rescue. Also, it reminded me of Amanda Blake, who played "Kitty" in the TV show "Gunsmoke." Amanda was my grandmother's best friend, and along with Betty White, her other best friend ("Golden Girls"), they worked their tails off to save animals in Los Angeles/Hollywood. Those three women were animal activists way back in the sixties, seventies, and eighties. Just a little story I thought you might enjoy ...
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Re: AZREAL- PENDING!
Post by sissycat96101 on Aug 31, 2006, 12:52pm

kitten huh never thought of it but its cute ,might have to try it out.
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Re: AZREAL- PENDING!
Post by sissycat96101 on Aug 31, 2006, 1:17pm

ok so we have stella,kitten maybe shortened to kitty,mrs.pots ,or merrange like the pie.any votes..lol.....
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Re: AZREAL- PENDING!
Post by pekipoos on Sept 3, 2006, 9:46pm

Venus, Budah (I know not fem. enough, but cute) Patsy.. or hmmm.. gotta think some more.
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Re: AZREAL- PENDING!
Post by andrea on Sept 23, 2006, 8:09am

I sent an email to her PS on Thursday. I am hoping, if I do make the trip over there this weekend, that I can bring her home with Murphy. I am absolutely in love with her pictures, she is so cute and looks sweet!

But I think her PS is on vacation or something, last time I emailed her about George she was out of town, and now I'm not getting a reply back.
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Re: AZREAL- PENDING!
Post by andrea on Sept 23, 2006, 10:19am

I just got a message back from Vickie. She is trying to contact whoever was the backup home (don't know who that was) for Azrael, and if they can't take her maybe I can.
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Re: AZREAL- PENDING!
Post by sissycat96101 on Sept 25, 2006, 11:51am

tlcequine was working on getting her home to her ,that was the last i knew.
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Re: AZREAL- PENDING!
Post by tlcequine on Sept 28, 2006, 4:14am

I really wanted Azreal, but someone (or two) has accused me of not taking care of my horses since I have a lemon truck, and I lack a digital camera and computer skills. (I still don't understand how that has to do with taking care of horses?!?) I decided that it isn't fair to Azreal for her to have to wait to get into a real home till CBER gets around to doing a site check.
I haven't heard from ANYONE at CBER, no-one replies to emails.
All I can say, is Azreal deserves to be in a HOME, not sitting at Sams.
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Re: AZREAL- PENDING!
Post by cybercat on Oct 1, 2006, 12:51pm

Oh no, I hope your hubby recovers soon! We seem to be havng a rash of set-backs to CBER members lately...and some of the CBER horses too.

I don't blame you for holding off on Azreal- her food bill must be quite impressive!

Yeah, I held out on the computer stuff for a long time, I just didn't want to be bothered with anything else, between kids, schools, sports, animals, hubby business trips, etc...but the I found CBER and that's all she wrote! Laundry? What laundry? Dinner? Take-out! Don't you know that there are horses to be talked about and saved? LOL!
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Re: AZREAL- PENDING!
Post by tlcequine on Oct 13, 2006, 1:24pm

AAARRRGGHHHHH!!!!!!
Have you seen the pic of Azrael being ridden???!?
I'm still so in love with her! Why oh why did hubby have to fall???
I beat my head against the wall DAILY, CONSTANTLY. I am shriveling like a prune because all my fluids leak without end from my eyes!
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Re: AZREAL- PENDING!
Post by cybercat on Oct 13, 2006, 3:01pm

AAaaaawwwww....Azreal IS lookin' pretty good...still not adopted...

don't let your fluids leak without end! (That is the funniest description I've heard in a long time!)
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Re: AZREAL- PENDING!
Post by tlcequine on Oct 13, 2006, 3:24pm

I'd stop leaking if Azrael came home to me! She's my dream horse.
Maybe I should try faucets on my eyes.
You know how younsters make creatures out of shrivled up apples or potatoes? That's what I'm beginning to resemble.

BOO!
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Re: AZREAL- PENDING!
Post by tlcequine on Oct 13, 2006, 3:31pm

I probably just aged myself with that comment. Oh well.
At least I feel young. (sort of) I feel like a junior high schooler with a crush. I have Azraels pictures ALL OVER MY HOUSE. I even found a picture in my hubbys car. (and of course I have pix in my truck!)
I admit, I'm totally smitten!
Gotta go bang my head, and mop up.....I'm still leaking!

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Re: AZREAL- PENDING!
Post by cybercat on Oct 13, 2006, 3:36pm

I remember Apple head dolls...I had one and one time when I went home, I noticed something odd about it. This one was a granny, complete with white wig and wire-rimmed glasses. I took a closer look and got creeped out. Apparently a mouse got in and ate the entire apple head, leaving only the shell of the wig and glasses on top of the body!
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Re: AZREAL- PENDING!
Post by hoofnoter on Oct 13, 2006, 4:11pm

Here's directions how to make them (from my family's fruit from washington website)...my sister made the witch applehead doll in the link...take a look! www.fruitfromwashington.com/Relative/dolls.htm
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Re: AZREAL- PENDING!
Post by tlcequine on Oct 13, 2006, 7:49pm

Well that thing with the green hair is better looking than me! I'm so leaked out I look much more wrinkled then that! (although I DONT have green hair!) Maybe the eaten away head doll is more like what I'm starting to resemble.
My heart is broken over Azrael.
I think she and Takoda (who really needs a buddy), would have gotten along great.
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**thump**thump**thump**
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UPDATE: Azrael's adoption fell through so she is available at Camelot Farm
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Re: AZREAL- PENDING!
Post by crum on Oct 15, 2006, 7:51am

All I've got to say about the apple head dolls is "They are creepy".

It sounds like if things go smoothly Azrael will now be coming to my house. We'll see how it goes with her and my DP and I'll try to keep people updated.
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Azreal - 20+ y/o - 15.3h - Grey Draft Mare
Post by foxie on Nov 14, 2006, 8:23pm

Fostered by Crum in Gaston, OR

Azreal - Older grey draft type mare. 15.3 hands, almost as wide as she is tall! Is a good girl and was very nice in her makeshift halter, we even got her to trot with us in it. When she bows her neck she looks like an old circus horse! She let us pick up her feet briefly and was gentle to handle. We were told she had been driven, but can't confirm at this time of course.

She is 20-25. She had her teeth floated on 11/06. Her teeth are all there, but several at the back are cupping out. She is still doing fine with the really high quality hay I'm feeding, but at some point in the future she will probably need to be switched to pellets or cubes. I've done a treatment of sand clear.

She was palpated and the vet says she appears to be open. There is a large amount of thickening of the uterus and cervix. The vet believes this is because she has had a lot of foals in the past. She appears to be slightly arthritic in the hind end. I have not had Xrays done to locate exact joints or degree. I am starting her on a supplement to see if it helps with this. She also currently needs a chiropractor very badly. I am working on getting one scheduled, but nailing down a date is causing some grief.

She has excellent ground manners. She really seems to enjoy people. She is wonderful about having her front feet handled. Her front feet were trimmed on 10/30. Due to the arthritis and need for a chiropractor her hind legs/hind end cause her a great amount of discomfort so they have been cleaned several times but not trimmed. The discomfort causes her to hop around continually while they are being worked on so due to safety concerns and not wanting to cause her a lot of discomfort I don't clean them every day, but try to do it every 3-4 days or so. I give her some bute on the days I plan on cleaning them and I also treat them with some stuff to help keep any thing trying to grow there under control. On the 21st she is going to be sedated so they can be trimmed. I'm really hoping the combination of joint supplement and chiropractor will help with the hind feet. If the oral supplements don't help much I'll probably go ahead and have Xrays done to determine a more agressive course of treatment for the arthritis. I've used the Adequan IM before on other horses and it would probably be my next step with her if the currently planned stuff doesn't help.

She has some lumps along her undercarriage. The vet believes them to be large fatty deposits, but we are going to keep a close eye on them for any sort of changes that would indicate they are anything else.

So far she seems to be a bit overly aggressive towards my other horses. I'm hoping once she settles in more she will temper the behavior a bit. Until I have the chiropractor out, get her hind feet trimmed and am comfortable with her physical comfort levels I won't be assessing her riding or driving any further. Once I have those taken care of though I have one of the local draft horse trainers who I am planning on having assess her driving ability and I'll assess her myself for riding level.

Contact Vickie for more information at: [e-mail]

$800.00



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Re: Azreal - 20+ y/o - 15.3h - Grey Draft Mare
Post by foxie on Nov 14, 2006, 8:24pm

Updated pictures of Azreal can be seen at: www.xyz.com/~cem/horse/horsepict/azrael/
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Re: Azreal - 20+ y/o - 15.3h - Grey Draft Mare
Post by Atticus on Nov 29, 2006, 6:59am

Crum how is Lily doing?? (I can't see her updates anymore now that I am off the old BB )

[crum]

Re: Azreal - 20+ y/o - 15.3h - Grey Draft Mare
Post by crum on Nov 29, 2006, 8:32pm
__________________________________________________

Lily was saved from a sad fate in August of 2006.

Here she is on the ninth day of her occupation



Lily is doing well. The farrier was out on the 21st and trimmed all 4. He seemed to think they were looking pretty good. I managed to get a chiropractor appointment for December 20th for her. Hopefully this will help a bit more with her discomfort during handling of the hind feet. I think the supplement has already helped a bit.

The DP has been calling her "my horse" when he talks about her.

I bought her a nice draft horse sized black nylon halter. She has one of those heads that borders between extra large and draft. It looks quite stylish on her.

She likes pears, romaine lettuce and carrots. Of course so far I haven't found a food she doesn't seem to like.

Did you see the post about her coggins ?

modify to add a bit more
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Re: Azreal - 20+ y/o - 15.3h - Grey Draft Mare
Post by lowland on Nov 30, 2006, 4:49pm

Crum, did they ever figure out what that swelling was on her belly? I am currently dealing with something similar with my guy and wanted to check to see if they had any ideas.
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Re: Azreal - 20+ y/o - 15.3h - Grey Draft Mare
Post by crum on Nov 30, 2006, 7:27pm

Nov 30, 2006, 4:49pm, lowland wrote:Crum, did they ever figure out what that swelling was on her belly? I am currently dealing with something similar with my guy and wanted to check to see if they had any ideas.

The vet's current theory is that they are just large fatty deposits. Apparently older horses who have been allowed to remain obese for long periods can develop firm fatty deposits that may never go away. However the vet also said to keep an eye on them and if they change shape,size or consistency to let her know and she would do some more intrusive testing.
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Re: Azreal - 20+ y/o - 15.3h - Grey Draft Mare
Post by crum on Dec 7, 2006, 4:45am

Lily was apparently feeling ignored the other day. Usually when I clean stalls and runs I've just fed. So Lily would be off eating. This weekend I was cleaning her run and I hadn't fed. I was sifting things through the manure fork and Lily was sort of standing behind me. I thought I felt something touch the middle of my back but it was so light I wasn't sure. So I kind of shrugged my shoulders and it went away. It came back right after that. I looked around and Lily had her nose touching the middle of my back. She wasn't being pushy about it. She was just barely touching my jacket. I went back to cleaning and had my side to her. Next thing I know she has her nose just barely touching my shoulder. As I cleaned she would keep her nose just barely touching whichever part of me was closest to her. As soon as I asked her to step away she did and she stayed where I asked her to go, but she gave me the really big sad eyes.

She also has been practicing her circus act. She gets fed in a rigid black plastic feed pan on the ground. The last few days she has been flipping it upside down and stepping on it. Every time she did it I would think of the circus act where the elephants stand on the big round upside down "tubs". Yesterday unfortunately it finally gave up and the bottom broke out. I was actually impressed that it held up for as long as it did.

modified to add yes I know it is recommended to not clean with the horses in the same area for safety reasons.
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Re: Azreal - 20+ y/o - 15.3h - Grey Draft Mare
Post by Atticus on Dec 7, 2006, 6:50am

She is such a sweet gal, maybe she really is a circus pony!!
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UPDATE: 1/29/07 Another Lily update. I took her this weekend to a local draft horse trainer for evaluation. He seemed thoroughly impressed. At one point he said "If you were only 10 years younger...." She is incredibly soft, responsive, calm and has a great work ethic. A slight twitch of the fingers is all it took to send her either direction. I've ridden riding horses that weren't as responsive as her. I know because at one point I had the opportunity to drive her myself. She works well both singly and as a pair. She seemed a little rusty at first as a single, but then came back up to speed quickly. He wasn't sure if she really was just rusty or if she is more used to being driven as a pair. She carries herself very nicely as well. The trainer said that if anyone is looking for a driving horse to just take out occasionally and putz around with she should be the one. Due to her age he seemed to feel that she should not be used really heavily. He did say he would recommend the driver either get some training themselves or be somewhat experienced as she is so soft and responsive. I believe he doesn't want to see her be spoiled by someone who is rough or heavy handed with her. I am still treating her eye. The vet is supposed to be out to do a recheck today. Also I noticed a firm marble sized lump on her pectoral muscle this past week. At first I had thought it was just a hairball because her winter coat is long enough on her chest it keeps wanting to mat, but further inspection made it clear it was more than that. The vet is supposed to at least look at the lump as well. Her weight is picking back up nicely. I can't see her ribs anymore. Lily is also signed up to go to the Mane Event February 9-11 in case no one had mentioned it to you. New photos are at www.xyz.com/~cem/horse/horsepict/lily/day_99/ I've also attached 2 of my favorite pictures.
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Posted by crum on Feb 23, 2007, 8:07am
Lily has apparently been watching the other horses closely.

I have one mare who is always in the arena when I go out to feed. She has a funny little "pattern" she does almost every time when she sees me coming. First she canters to the end of the arena opposite the barn. Then she spins around and does a working trot back to the barn and about 10-15 feet out she starts bucking a ten meter circle to the left. Once she finishes her circle she canters to the far side of the arena. She spins around again. Then usually passages to her stall.

Imagine if you will a 2000 pound 20 something year old who is out of shape trying to do the same thing. When I went out last night to feed and Lily was in the arena she tried to do an almost identical pattern. I thought I was going to hurt myself from laughing when she started the bucking part. She even tried to do the head snaking part during the buck which may have been the funniest part since it was obvious it wasn't something she knew how to do.
Posted by kidznhorses on Feb 23, 2007, 10:55am
I have a visual! Too funny! She must be feeling really, really good!
Posted by Spyder on Feb 23, 2007, 2:24pm
She is clearly a very smart girl! Learning all that in such a short time. I want to see her passage, too.... ya gotta get video of this! *BIG GRIN*

Lynn


I've snapped some new pictures of her. They are at www.xyz.com/~cem/horse/horsepict/azrael/day_86/

Here is one of them:


I think her eyes look really amazing in the full sized version of this photo. The flash made them look like they have a sunrise/sunset in them almost. I'm a little embarrassed by how dirty she looks in the photos. She looked snowy white to the human eye in the same light. Apparently the combination of whatever dirt was on her long fluffy white hair and the camera flash combined to give her a very dirty appearance.

[atticus]

Oh my favorite girl!!! She looks beautiful!!!

[halfwayhome]

Did you adopt her or are you fostering her? She is a big sweety!

[crum]

halfwayhome said:

Did you adopt her or are you fostering her? She is a big sweety!

She is a foster with a possiblity of adoption. It is up to my DP whether we end up adopting her or not. If someone just has to have her though please get in touch with her PS.

[cybercat]

I bet you'd be very sad to give her up...Did I get her thread moved over here? I need to concentrate on more threads after the Truck is dealt with....I absolutely love this girl too.

[crum]

I took some time this evening and tacked Lily up. I had forgotten how hard it can be to fit saddles on older horses that have lost a lot of muscle tone along their topline. I did have to do some mixing and matching of girths from one dressage saddle to another, but worked it out so I had something that fit her well enough to take her for a stroll on a lead with the saddle on. I'm going to see about reassessing the saddle fit some more when I have more time to make sure it is good enough that I feel she will be happy being ridden in it.

She did look quite stylish though and was incredibly good natured about her fashion show. Of course I hadn't taken my camera out with me.

I'm going to venture a guess that none of my bridles or bits will fit her, but that is a challenge for another day.

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cybercat said:

I bet you'd be very sad to give her up...Did I get her thread moved over here? I need to concentrate on more threads after the Truck is dealt with....I absolutely love this girl too.

I had been updating the 'Azrael has Arrived' thread I don't think it was moved over, but I could be wrong. I would definitely be sad, but if I was sure she was going to a good home I would get over it.

modified to fix misplaced punctuation

[crum]

Lily had an adventure today. She had a nice little ride in a trailer. Then she was evaulated as to her driving training. I'd like to just say she continues to impress me I'll post more later.

modified to add and I did remember the camera today

[pnp4kidz]

just dropped a post... so if it shows u[p. sorry...
anyway!!

Hi Crum,
I have a loose ring snaffle, full draft sized... I'd be glad to send it to you if you'd like it!
It is way to big for Taffy and is just sitting here gathering dust.... and being 'wow'ed at !

I have always loved the look of this gal!!!

[countrygirl]

Crum, what is Lily's breed? Is she a Percheron? Not to be ignorant, but I have seen some some very large and tall Percherons and then I have seen pictures that look more like Lily. My little guy has those same short legs but a big build like Lily and I have wondered what his breeding might be.

[crum]

I've started posting pictures from Lily's adventure. It may take me a while to finish. They will be at www.xyz.com/~cem/horse/horsepict/lily/day_99/

Here are some select ones

[atticus]

OM MY GOSH, Miss Lilly looks so great all hitched up!! She is so great, I just love her!!!

[crum]

I've finished putting photos up. There are some with her being driven as a single and in a pair. There are even a couple of photos of me driving her. I'll post more of a writeup later. I have to go feed the "ponies" now.

[quatzie]

Wow, a driving Mare both single and double .. how lucky you are to have gotten her... She looks like a real nice mare. Keep sending pictures in I love the Drafts photos....

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countrygirl said:

Crum, what is Lily's breed? Is she a Percheron? Not to be ignorant, but I have seen some some very large and tall Percherons and then I have seen pictures that look more like Lily. My little guy has those same short legs but a big build like Lily and I have wondered what his breeding might be.

Everyone I have talked to seems to agree that she is a "classic" or "old style" Percheron. The more modern show Percherons tend to be taller and leggier.

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pnp4kidz said:

just dropped a post... so if it shows u[p. sorry...
anyway!!

Hi Crum,
I have a loose ring snaffle, full draft sized... I'd be glad to send it to you if you'd like it!
It is way to big for Taffy and is just sitting here gathering dust.... and being 'wow'ed at !

I have always loved the look of this gal!!!

Any idea of the actual measurement on the bit? A lot of things that are listed as full draft size are to big for her.

[caryn]

WOW!!!! Those pics are so great. Lily looks wonderful all tacked up to drive She and her buddy make a nice pair too.

[murphypoo]

Have a 16.2 draft and she fits a normal 6.5" gullet saddle and 5 and 3/4 bit. Just for a tip, they're not all huge, wide and crazy big. She seems big, but not in the buying department!

[rodeo51]

I love the updates on this girl. In those last 2 pictures she looks so proud and pleased with herself in the harness. That braid in her forlock is cute too. :-)

Modified to fix my spelling.

[crum]

I'm embarrassed to say that apparently I have been spelling Lily's name wrong all this time. My DP corrected me the other day. He says when he named her Lilly it is short for Lillian and should therefore be spelled Lilly.

I celebrated Lilly's birthday on March 31. I decided since Bungee and Flirt share that as their birthday Lilly could share too since I don't know when hers is. So they all received lots of good eats on the day. I even took them all for a stroll to the very dense clover and dandelion patches for a few minutes. Lilly always seems thrilled when I take her for walks even when I don't let her eat. ;D Unfortunately I forgot to take the camera out so no pictures.

I have been trying to keep on top of her winter hair situation to keep it from matting. I have never had a horse with such long winter hair before or hair that wanted to mat like her's does. I actually took a chunk of it that had come out the other day while brushing and measured it. The average hairs were 5 inches long. She walks and fluffy pieces of it fly everywhere. Whenever she touches anything she leaves a nice little white carpet.

We have been working on getting her used to gunfire. She has become more adjusted. The other horses are really helping since they don't even jump usually when the gunshots go off. Currently we have her to the point where suppressed fire about 75 feet from the barn is mostly okay with her.

Some concerning news is that I had noticed an odd elongated lump in her throatlatch along her jaw when she put her head down to eat. It sort of looked like a fat roll that came over her jaw, but only on one side. The vet checked it and thinks it is a melanoma or melanomas on her salivery gland. We have discussed possibly starting her on cimetidine however it is apparently most useful when the melanomas are actively growing and without more background history on Lilly it is impossible to say if hers are growing or not. The vet did not seem to concerned about them though which made me feel a little bit better. I have never had a gray horse before so even though I knew they were more prone to melanomas I have been a bit uncertain about what is normal and what is not.

[rocky]

Crum, I have Lilly's white mane braid and Sarge's black mane braid on my bed post. I think of her often. Thank you for the updates!!Rocky

[atticus]

LIlly is such a great gal. Drafts have that pesky undercoat that makes the grooming horrible in the spring, Brunhilda had some 5 inch long hair too I was amazed! Atticus doesn't have any melanomas yet (knock on wood) but our vet said they rarely even remove them and he didn't seem to worried either. Oh the life of a grey horse

[Tate]

She has always been one on my favs, what a proud mare she is.

[crum]

I realized I haven't updated in quite a while. Not much has been going on. I started her on the cimetidine for the melanomas. They have not grown visibly since I started her on it, but I am not sure if they just aren't growing or if the cimetidine is actually helping. I've modified her feed ration a couple of times since I posted last.

She is now getting

in the morning:
1 c soybean oil
4 pounds alfalfa pellets
8 oz horseguard megadose
9 pounds orchard grass hay
2 pounds alfalfa hay

in the evening:
1/4 c soybean oil
1 pound alfalfa pellets
9 pounds orchard grass hay
2 pounds alfalfa hay

3 times a day 2.5 cimetidine in a handful of alfalfa pellets or in her normal ration of alfalfa pellets.

I just dewormed her last weekend. She had her shots and her teeth checked again in April. The vet said her teeth needed no work. The farrier was out May 18th and gave her a trim. I wasn't able to be there but apparently she was a good girl for him.

She has been being a productive member of the household by "supervising" the work out at the barn. ;D The other day I was drilling a hole in her run with the cordless drill and she came to stand right next to me. She proceeded to put her nose so far into where I was working she actually ended up with it touching the drill. The DP was working the arena the other day and she was on the other side of the fence with her head so far into the arena he said he was worried about hitting her with the bucket when he came by her.

Based on the stories I was reading in some of the other threads about the draft "escapees" I've been pleasantly surprised that Lilly chooses to stay in the 2 strands of hot tape she is usually turned out in. The DP thinks she stays because of the natural barriers on the other side of the tape (ie the 3-4 foot bank up all along one side and the 10 feet deep 4-5 feet high rose bushes all down the other side) but I like to think she is just a gem among draft horses

I cannot say her relationship with the horses on both sides of her has improved any unfortunately.

I'll try to get some updated pictures on the next sunny day.

[atticus]

Lily is such a sweetie! I just love to hear stories about her. Not all drafties are hard on fences, Finn is very respectful and won't even cross one that is 2 or 3 feet tall.....Caboose on the other hand knocks them down with his bum while he is scratching!

[crum]

Lilly is always good for a laugh. I was out cleaning stalls the other day. I had strung the stall guards across the front of their stalls while I was working because they seem to really like to watch me. I went around the end of the barn to fill the wheelbarrow with sawdust and I hear this bumpbump bumpbump. I walk around to see what they are doing. Lilly is standing there with her head out of the front of her stall and up looking at me all sweet and innocent like nothing was going on. I might have bought it had she not had her front leg most of the way into the rubbermaid trash can she had apparently walked into her stall ;D

The trash can is what I use to store the hay in front of her stall for the next feeding. To her great disappointment I had not filled it for the next meal yet.

[agilitygal]

Great visual! Love it!

[gypsy79]

Ditto! Great visual. I love to hear stories like this. Thanks for the chuckle.

Life is good in our horse world!!!!!

[crum]

Here are a couple of updated Lilly photos. She was not happy that I kept making her go stand on the other side so I could get all of her in the picture.









There are a couple more photos at www.xyz.com/~cem/horse/horsepict/lilly/day_289/

modified to add If you access the url you are best off using the jpg s that have medium at the beginning of the name if you want the pictures to download in a reasonable amount of time.