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Post by galaxy on Feb 23, 2008 11:55:12 GMT -5
We have definite and personal knowledge of two large rescue facilities having numerous horses seized due to improper care and condition.
Why are these people taking on "rescue horses" when they themselves are not caring for the animals?
Please consider carefully before you take on the responsibility of these animals!!!!
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Post by beejoyfulmk on Feb 23, 2008 11:56:41 GMT -5
we need the truth.....so we can help
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Post by cybercat on Feb 23, 2008 11:58:50 GMT -5
Oh, stop with the insinuations...if there are truthful allegations, the authorities are handling it, so let them.
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Post by galaxy on Feb 23, 2008 12:05:51 GMT -5
The authorities are handling it.
Why do you so want to protect people that are not caring for horses?
I THOUGHT THIS WAS ALL ABOUT THE HORSES!!!
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Post by halebop on Feb 23, 2008 12:11:07 GMT -5
I believe the word is Surrendered not Seized.
Please keep your mind on the horses not on people....the horses are so much more interesting.
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Post by rescuestoribbons on Feb 23, 2008 12:13:49 GMT -5
Yes, the horses are MUCH more interesting, no need to get into a little tassel about this, the horses are being removed.
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Post by bridgetah on Feb 23, 2008 12:18:43 GMT -5
Oh, stop with the insinuations...if there are truthful allegations, the authorities are handling it, so let them. Amen. |
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Post by halebop on Feb 23, 2008 12:20:13 GMT -5
Yes, the horses are MUCH more interesting, no need to get into a little tassel about this, the horses are being removed. Precisely. don't we have a truck today? |
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Post by rescuestoribbons on Feb 23, 2008 12:24:31 GMT -5
I heard that there was not one comming.... but is there?!?!
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Post by cybercat on Feb 23, 2008 12:24:35 GMT -5
No truck today- Woohoo!
Apparently Sam told someone that there was no truck but word didn't reach the board.
I am thankful for more time.
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Post by halebop on Feb 23, 2008 12:25:24 GMT -5
WHEW!!!
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Post by rescuestoribbons on Feb 23, 2008 12:26:10 GMT -5
SA-WEET!!! Do we know when it is comming???
Ladies, we REALLY need to get working on these horses, there are two that have been there FAR to long and they have places to go, so dig deep into you hubbies neighbors, friends pockets!!
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Post by piopico on Feb 23, 2008 12:29:42 GMT -5
We have to assume EVERY Saturday, unless told otherwise.
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Post by beejoyfulmk on Feb 23, 2008 12:30:19 GMT -5
yes we need to save all of them.......everywhere....what can we do to get a foster set-up going
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Post by galaxy on Feb 23, 2008 12:31:38 GMT -5
I am angry that these horses are in poor condition when they were supposedly "rescued".
You can all ignore the problems but that does not mean that they do not exist.
Go ahead and change the post to whatever- and ignore what is happening in several "rescue facilities".
That will surely help the horse!
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Post by barbpurple on Feb 23, 2008 12:52:50 GMT -5
ok i am confuse ,, last night i saw a post about horses being seized from pec,, now that one is gone but this one is here.. are they related?? just trying to keep up with the news,, i feel for any horse that has been siezed but we need to just focus on the ones we can help out and keep our work at hand and not be starting word wars with out any facts..
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Post by NanciK on Feb 23, 2008 13:01:22 GMT -5
I'm sorry, help me understand why this is HEADLINE NEWS?
Hello! Rescues, just as individual horses owners, are in a crisis .... everywhere in the US. Why is this such a shock?
Keep it in perspective, please, drop the insinuations, and take action, instead of adding to the hyperbole.
Words posted here are not going to help ANY horse, unless they are backed up with action.
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Post by rescuestoribbons on Feb 23, 2008 13:01:36 GMT -5
We have horses in front of us right now that we know about and can do something about right now.
We have been told that the authorities are dealing with this and the horses are going to be safe. If you know of another rescue that is in trouble like this is there anything we can do to help???
The only thing you have told us is that there is a problem, so how are we supposed to help?
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Post by galaxy on Feb 23, 2008 13:13:17 GMT -5
Number one -I do not post without facts!
Number two- I am trying to make people aware of a major problem with horse "rescue facilities".
Number three- I am not naming names- I do not care who is doing this- what I care about is horses that were taken from poor conditions and put someplace else with poor conditions and care.
This is a prime example of taking on more animals than you can handle. Do not take on another horse if you cannot care for what you have already. This is becoming an evergrowing problem with "rescues" and private parties.
Make people aware of what it takes to "rescue" a horse. It is a very costly proposition- and you need to have disposable income to have these animals. Please do not take a horse to have it put into worse conditions than where it started.
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Post by jessiegirl1981 on Feb 23, 2008 13:18:17 GMT -5
I agree with your points but in relation to Pec u need to check your facts if horses have been given to other rescues they are not abused undernourished horses, that is a fact. If anything they are dirty big deal horses LOVE dirty and thats it. I have screamed this from the rooftops and will continue to do so. I have been there PERIOD!! If there was an issue with nutrition I would surely not open my big mouth and say otherwise..there isnt. Too many horses ...maybe. Working on that.. most definetly. The adoptions are happening and if u are worried email and ask who u can take if u can. There are many nice horses that are utd and only need homes
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Post by rescuestoribbons on Feb 23, 2008 13:19:58 GMT -5
I think the big question right now is what your purpose was when you posted this?? You have not told us how we can help just that horses are in need else where also which is already known.... please instead of going off on people just let us know if/how we can help, we are here for the horses, and it shows.
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Post by gratefulknits on Feb 23, 2008 13:34:56 GMT -5
Galaxy, I don't know who you are, and can only give you the benefit of the doubt that you intend to help. However, I'd like to bring to your attention (in case you aren't already aware) that making the statement that "horses were taken from poor conditions" etc. but then not following it up with some concrete suggestion or OFFER OF HELP is like standing on the street corner shouting "PEOPLE ARE BEING MUGGED!" Yeah, of course people are being mugged - but where exactly? Tell me and I'll call the cops to come intervene. Likewise, if you know some facts, then either make the FACTS known or don't make the big proclamation. Because the kind of post you made, when it remains vague and without specifics, really strikes most of us as being fuel for the rumor mill.
If you personally know of horses who are in trouble and need help, then bring that information to us here. As a "community", this board excels at helping horses in need wherever they are. If on the other hand, your "personal" knowledge is what you read on some other forum, please please don't add more fuel the fire. It doesn't help any one and it certainly doesn't help a single horse.
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Post by watermarkfarm on Feb 23, 2008 13:36:34 GMT -5
Galaxy,
Please furnish us with details, otherwise your post just appears to be inflammatory and malicious. How did you get this information? What rescue besides Pacific Equestrian Center? Facts? Details?
Please provide me, via PM, with the contact information for local Animal Control, along with the name of the rescue(s), the case #s if possible, and I will check it out right away to see where things stand!
We need to keep the focus on continuing to help horses and stay away from the drama. I am the first one to support investigating any rescue, whether affiliated with RO or not, to see if they are "what they seem to be." I know there are many "borderline" rescuers out there. But PLEASE do not post rumors without facts. It's just too damaging to the rescue community in general!
Thanks,
Katie
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Post by halebop on Feb 23, 2008 13:42:27 GMT -5
I am angry that these horses are in poor condition when they were supposedly "rescued". You can all ignore the problems but that does not mean that they do not exist. Go ahead and change the post to whatever- and ignore what is happening in several "rescue facilities". That will surely help the horse! Galaxy, you can cool down any time now. There's really no need for you to be expressing your "anger" here. If it is about the horses, the do something to help them and lay off the s**t disturbing. Please, it won't help anyone. Edited to add...I know you have knowledge of what is going on and have heard about or seen some of the horses. So I believe your statements. I just think you need to think about your approach and your intent a bit more. |
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Post by galaxy on Feb 23, 2008 13:46:40 GMT -5
I have not named anyone specifically- the people on the board are attaching names to these events. I am asking people to make sure that if you are adopting -that you can provide a better place for these horses.
Why are my intentions being questioned? You on this board are making it personal.
My intention is to make people aware that this is an issue that is happening in your own backyard. If you rehome a horse make sure of where it is going- get references and do site checks.
THIS IS ALL ABOUT THE HORSES!!!
What you can do is make sure that you can take care of the horses that you adopt.
Help out at "rescue " facilities. If you see a problem talk to the owner- if you get no response-report it. Do not let the animals suffer. There are cases where horses are thin not because of lack of feeding but due to medical problems, but their teeth and hooves should always be maintained regardless.
Make others aware of the work and money involved in owning a horse. Yes, there are many rewards but the cost when you do not have disposable income can become overwhelming.
I care about animals and that is what this post is about.
Stop making it a witch hunt.
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Post by jessiegirl1981 on Feb 23, 2008 13:52:32 GMT -5
Maybe I am a lil touchy and quick to jump to conclusions if it was undeserved I am sorry. I am angry at others then.. not u. I am sickened that people smell blood in the water and gloat. They hide behind the internet bashing with no attempts to help. It worries me that the first response to someone elses problems is happiness. I just wasnt raised that way and I have a hard time with it. Once again if I was incorrect in my posting towards u I am sorry
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Post by NanciK on Feb 23, 2008 13:52:51 GMT -5
galaxy - If your intent is to make the RO board members aware of the fact that sometimes rescues themselves need rescuing ... you're PREACHING TO THE CHOIR. That's why people are trying to understand your post ... because, quite honestly, we all GET it already.
IMHO, your energy is better spent telling uninformed people about the situation.
If, on the other hand, your intent is to bring attention to a specific rescue facility, provide us with facts, and we will do our best to help the specific horses in need.
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Post by kayceepaint05 on Feb 23, 2008 13:55:46 GMT -5
If it is PEC, I tried to get a horse from them for my daughter, but no return calls, no information. I am still wanting a horse, there were alot of horses there that I would have loved to bring home but no one will talk to me there and help me!!! Very frustrated!!! Just because of past dealings with Dean 2 years ago!!!! OMG, I want to help, Have room for 1 horse for my daughter but how can I bring one home to spoil if no one will let me know details!!!
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Post by NanciK on Feb 23, 2008 13:58:11 GMT -5
Why would someone keep going back to the same Chinese Restaurant when you get sick from their food every time?
You have choices, if PEC doesn't meet you needs, move on.
For example, there are two darling kid-friendly mares on the SOS Equines feedlot that might be perfect for your daughter.
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Post by watermarkfarm on Feb 23, 2008 14:00:55 GMT -5
We have definite and personal knowledge of two large rescue facilities having numerous horses seized due to improper care and condition. I, for one, am simply asking you to share this "definite and personal knowledge." You responded with this "I am just making a general point about checking out a rescue" but your initial post leads one to believe you have very specific information on hand. I'd love for you to share it with me privately, via PM, so that I can quietly check it out away from the RO board... Thanks! Katie |
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