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Post by vadnaisarabians on Apr 5, 2008 11:12:21 GMT -5
No new info so far.
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Post by jenm on Apr 5, 2008 11:12:26 GMT -5
My question also. Does anyone know what is going on with them and if they can still be saved? I think you should go directly to their placement specialists for the answer to your question.
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Post by Tockita on Apr 5, 2008 11:20:44 GMT -5
If any of you want to group together to start checking the feedlots in CA count me in. There is one about an hour north of me in Chino Hills. There is an auction today at the Stockyards on Euclid in Chino. Horses start at 1pm I think, and by the end of the day horses are selling for $25 & $50
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Post by vadnaisarabians on Apr 5, 2008 11:26:19 GMT -5
Ya.......the feedlot is visable from the freeway. I drove by there a few months ago and a double decker trailer parked by the driveway. There was this beautiful dapple gray mare with maybe a month old baby next to her. When I came back they were gone.
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Post by jenm on Apr 5, 2008 11:37:43 GMT -5
There was this beautiful dapple gray mare with maybe a month old baby next to her. When I came back they were gone. On Alex Brown Racing there is a group that works hard to save pregnant mares and babies from feedlots in Socal. The positive thinker in me wants to believe they were adopted...
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Post by Tockita on Apr 5, 2008 11:39:05 GMT -5
I bought Cadence there last may. She was a 2 y/o chocolate palomino (or silver bay depending on who you ask) QH filly with decent bloodlines (Hancock and Dry Doc) who had been sold at auction at least 3 times since oct.
She is a fabulous girl once we got her on good feed and trimmed her a few times. She is now on lease to a 4H leader who has fallen in love with her. She was hauled all the way from the Dakotas on a double decker along with a bunch of other QHs all young (1 & 2 y/o and all colored)
She had a badly fixed hernia, and horrible feet. She was also very frightened and showed signs of having been abused in the past.
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Post by vadnaisarabians on Apr 5, 2008 11:39:39 GMT -5
You are a positive thinker! I cried on the way home. I should probably be a little more optomistic.
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Post by vadnaisarabians on Apr 5, 2008 11:41:28 GMT -5
What a success story. Oh, I was reading the link on your site about the horse serial killer. Did anything ever come of that?
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Post by quatzie on Apr 5, 2008 11:48:09 GMT -5
I find this all interesting, it was predicted on another board this will all happen maybe not the same way as it came about but did happen... back on March 22, 2008 It was called "A birdie told Me" thread from the ICERS board. I don't know what to think anymore, but will support the rescues that I know and have a personal knowledge about ... I do believe that good financial are important for a rescue, if that rescue is going to keep supporters. But, CBER doesn’t work under that model that most rescues use. So, don’t be surprised if CBER can pick up and start again because that has been the financial model that have use time and time again. It's clear that supporters of CBER must understand that, not ask questions and look to a short term horizon that you will be needed or wanted. I find that the SOS model is refreshing approach to feed lot rescue. I wish the best to all rescues, no matter what model they choose to use.
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Post by angelinmydreams on Apr 5, 2008 12:03:13 GMT -5
I just have to throw my dollors worth in here. I have supported CBER since 05. My nieghbor got me into supporting horse rescue. I have always kept to myself and cared for my own animals and helped others when I got urgent fix my horse call. One day CBER turned off access to their page and therefore forced their members to go else wheres. So here we are CBER supporters on the RO trying to help the horses. In the mean time, the price of horses sky rocket through CBER and there are more regulations to have to go by. So people started woundering where all this money is going if it is not going to the horses. There has been so many things happen and people stood by CBER like faithful old dogs. I for one am still here even though my best friend whom has adopted and supported $$ wise left over Meadow and Lavender and then the final blow was I think the horses name started with a S the one where she was paid for and shipped and then didn't ship and few months back sorrel and older I think. I will have to look. I stayed. Sam's letter is rude. From what I read of the other post the lagit one before it was moved people where just woundering why she did not reach over here for help since many of us donate $$$ and adopt horses from CBER. I have had computer issues so I can't say what all hase happened since I last seen the post. She should have asked. Though I have to say she really did bite the hand that feeds her. Abother good one is don't sh*t where you eat. It has been a taboo subject for a couple of years and you never hear about things until someone whispers them. I have heard lots of stuff but I never say anything it is not my place and I also have my own beliefs since I have seen how things have evolved from a members aspect over the years. It is a sad shame.
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Post by dancinwithhorses on Apr 5, 2008 13:12:54 GMT -5
So I was pleased to see that the lynch mob thread was gone only to find this one when I was checking my pms. So I really have to ask: did you really believe Sam has nothing better to do than sit at her computer answering every post OVER AND OVER AND OVER again? No wonder she got pissed. Yes this subject was brought up before and yes they answered but NO ONE LIKE THE ANSWER. No one here cares what the answer is, just that Sam shows the whites of her eyes for target practice. I have seen it before and it is always the same people who do it. d**n that thread was 14 pages!!!! I haven't seen that many responses on horses so it really IS all about someone to blame and point a finger. Well guess what people - 501 charities do answer... to the state. Not to a bunch of people with a lynch mob mentality. For the record - neither this post nor Sam's email meant everyone. But of course you all HAD to take exception to an email sent to a specific person. Its too bad really, but frankly I would not have answered that thread if I were her. Not with the tone it had. Sam behaves this way on a regular basis. I get tired of excuses being made for her. Something is very wrong here with CBER funds and Sam is coming out ahead! She consistently drives away supporters. I won't say anymore.......biting my hand now
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Post by lisa on Apr 5, 2008 13:21:05 GMT -5
angelinmydreams are you thinking of "Sophie?"
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Post by pikzeedust on Apr 5, 2008 13:25:43 GMT -5
please remember that you can go directly to the feedlot and buy them from Chuck . They are much less than getting them from CBER (although keep in mind you would want to keep them seperate from your own horses for awhile) . I think she is on to something. I wish there was a way that pictures could be posted to the public weekly so they can see what horses are available on the feedlot.
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Post by redhorse on Apr 5, 2008 13:29:12 GMT -5
So I was pleased to see that the lynch mob thread was gone only to find this one when I was checking my pms. . . . Well guess what people - 501 charities do answer... to the state. Not to a bunch of people with a lynch mob mentality. As already pointed out, non-profits are regulated by State and Federal Law. I'm sure no expert, but I thought "inurement" was a big no-no. Seems I saw the definition eariler - Inurement/Private Benefit - Charitable Organizations A section 501(c)(3) organization must not be organized or operated for the benefit of private interests, such as the creator or the creator's family, shareholders of the organization, other designated individuals, or persons controlled directly or indirectly by such private interests. No part of the net earnings of a section 501(c)(3) organization may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual. A private shareholder or individual is a person having a personal and private interest in the activities of the organization. So I'm not exactly sure what is the "lynchmob" you're talking about . . . . unless you have a problem with people asking questions and insisting that non-profit organizations maintain the scrupulous business practices necessary to ensure their HEALTHY FUNCTION. Without a well-functioning organization with CLEAR boundaries between personal and professional, the mission of the organization will ultimately suffer. Asking questions does NOT = a lynch mob. Questions encourage accountability. Accountability = a healthy organziation. -Cherie
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Post by fivemile on Apr 5, 2008 13:36:01 GMT -5
If I lived up there, I would be more than happy to take pictures of the horses. Unfortunately, I live two hours away. I am going up to Yakima next weekend to visit some friends and I will stop and see what's there. Where would I post pictures?
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Post by fivemile on Apr 5, 2008 13:51:35 GMT -5
Will do! Thanks.
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Post by pnp4kidz on Apr 5, 2008 20:30:39 GMT -5
OK, well Sam said post away... her friend called and told her I was emailing her.. (I guess ALL of her friends haven't left RO)
so, here you go, it's long... and backwards of course...
Just got back from the FL post away -
Wonder why you are asking permission this time and do so freely before?
On Apr 5, 2008, at 11:02 AM, Kennalley, Elizabeth wrote:
> Hi Sam > well, one of your friends on the RO board... not sure why, but he/ > she wants all of our correnspondence posted. I need your approval > of course, but this appears to have an appology intended to be > shown to others... not sure why you don't appologise to them > yourself, publically, but whatever... > if you desire this as your inner friend does, let me know and I'll > post. > or, you could appologise yourself! what a concept. > Beth > > -----Original Message----- > From: Samantha Milbredt [mailto:camelotfarm@nwinfo.net] > Sent: Sat 4/5/2008 7:30 AM > To: Kennalley, Elizabeth > Cc: > Subject: Re: CBER > > > > Beth, > > I am not getting into a debate - your posts are accusatory towards > me and CBER. CBER is it's own entity and so am I. > > CBER does not pay me a salary, I meek a living off the service of > QT. It costs a lot of money to run a facility no it is not going > into my pocket. The horses I personally own has nothing to do with > CBER. I work for Camelot for my horses board plain and simple again > your incorrect speculation and assumptions are getting amusing and > could not be further from the truth. > > I do understand finances and non-profits as does Marlene and have > consulted with the best in this region that is in charge of the taxes > for the most prestigious charities, 501's and foundations in Yakima. > I too have worked and been paid for by non-profit organizations. I > also I have started a few businesses - Horse Connection - magazine > for one. I ask have you started or ever owned your own business? If > so what was it and what is the present status of the business? > > CBER is all about saving horses - all donations indicated for a > specific use go to that use. If not indicated the donation goes > towards bale or operational expenses. 501's have bills too. > > We do not do what we please donations - they are tracked and applied > where requested. If not indicated the donation goes towards bale or > operational expenses. > > The only salary paid is Marlene's. Every dime is spend on horses and > operational expenses. Your accusations and out of line and > incorrect. > > I love the RO community except for the trouble makers such as > yourself. You have voiced your opinions against CBER and have > twisted my words for a long time in a unprofessional manner by using > the BB to air your dirty laundry - if you have the gaul to contact > Marlene, Wendy or myself directly as a professional would do in a > professional manner we would not be here. How I feel about you and > your manipulative tactics has nothing to do with the RO board and I > was not clear in my e-mail. > > As I have mentioned CBER has been wanting it's own board for months - > all CBER supporters and adopters are welcome as long as they like > CBER and will not be trying to change CBER. As I have stated the > policy is there for a reason. > > > There are issues of Animal Cruelty being charged to individuals on > the RO board - you feel duped by CBER wait till the charges are filed > then you are really going to have a fit and it will not be with > CBER! That is the thing about BB's people believe what they read and > there is a lot of deception on them ( not saying the RO board > specifically but boards in general). That is why I stand strong that > no CBER official business is to go on BB. The RO community is a > wonderful family, it is a chat room, where relationships and stories > are told, it is a compassionate community but not a place for > official business. I have no ills from the community on the RO > board - I was venting at you - again, the second apology to the > participants of the RO board - it was wrong for me to take out my > frustration with you on the entire board. That was not my intension > and I am sorry for the feelings I may have possibly hurt. > > Your last paragraph - commingling, profiting, conflict of interest, > personal expenses on CBER finacials - there is not co-mingling of > funds - CBER has its expenses - Camelot has it's expenses - if > anything Camelot pays many CBER bills - ie electric, dumpster, > supporting abandoned horses..... > > Profit - there is only debt and lots of it. > > Personal expenses on CBER finacials - another statement that is so > far from the truth. > > I buy horses at the sale, pay the vet, train them and sell them - I > do that with Camelot money. No sure what the problem with that is - > I take a green horse, train it, improve and find it a loving home - > there are many that go to the sales and do that. I advertise it on > Dreamhorse or the like what is wrong with that? > > I thank-you for your wishes of luck - > > Of course you do not know about the Animal Cruelty charges it is a > big cover up within the RO board, hence CBER separating from the RO > board. Not wanting animals to suffer well that is too late - it is > not fact that the offender will be found guilty and not the only > reason for leaving the RO - plain and simple we need our own board > and all CBER friends are welcomed. > > > Thanks, > > Sam > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 4, 2008, at 9:54 PM, Kennalley, Elizabeth wrote: > > > Sam, I have never personally accused you, I have only spoken of > > CBER and how the finances were handled... you come in only as the > > receiver of those funds. > > You don't seem to understand finances, or non profits, and I wont' > > explain. > > you have had people around you who have tried and tried, and have > > left you as you would not listen. > > they fear for their own part in the mis-appropriation if it is so. > > I have only saved the horses for the horses, there have never ever > > been any 'donations' to CBER from me. I have only saved horses. to > > do that, to save a horse, I bought it from CBER. > > or I took and have now supported fully a horse that others have > > bought from CBER. > > it's like Girl Scout Cookies, > > I can donate to the scouts, I can volunteer, I can lead a troop, > > or I can buy cookies. > > now, if I like to eat girl scout cookies, the only way I can get > > them is to buy them... > > so , even if I don't chose to become close to the organization and > > support them closely/directly, I can still get my cookies. yes, > > they do make some profit, and I have to just suck it up and be ok > > with that knowledge. but I get my product. I don't have to donate > > cash to them to do with as they please... > > > > CBER takes donations, but CBER also sells horses. > > I feel for them, and have felt OK turning my back on the questions > > around where the profits went... and why horses who needed to be > > saved, euthanized, etc weren't cared for with that profit from the > > ones who WERE saved.... then any excess perhaps used for > salaries... > > but no longer. > > you have made it quite clear to myself and to the RO community that > > you feel we are only pawns who are not even respected for our > > donations. > > you seem to think we are a dime a dozen, and don't even deserve > > your attention to explain, much less take our money any more.... > > frankly, the thread is sad, but cleansing to see everyone able to > > air their long term worries, that are now acknowledged, and we can > > move on. > > > > I hope you are right, and what you are doing, commingling, > > profiting from the conflict of interest, putting personal expenses > > on CBER financial, stating you buy, vet, board and train horses > > THEN offer to the public... I hope those are all ok. and I hope you > > continue to save thousands of horses. > > There are plenty for all of us to save. So, we wish you well. > > I don't know what animal cruelty investigations you talk of, but I > > hope with my heart no horse was abused, by anyone. > > > > Beth > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Samantha Milbredt [mailto:camelotfarm@nwinfo.net] > > Sent: Fri 4/4/2008 7:22 PM > > To: Kennalley, Elizabeth > > Cc: > > Subject: Re: CBER > > > > > > Again - your constant complaints have made me feel > attacked by > > you. What I do not understand if you do not like CBER why not find > > a rescue you like. CBER has policies for a reason - QT is here for > > a reason - you might not like them - others amy not like them but > > CBER has them in place for a reason and we are not changing the > > policies. > > > > I do not find your business questions personal - find your > > repeated personal accusations and incorrect speculations offensive. > > > > I do not have, nor do any CBER volunteers have the > expertise nor > > the time to manage funds so CBER has hired an book keeper. Marlene > > gives the financial reports to the BOD monthly and they are > > available. Marlene is catching up on 07 tax stuff and 08 monthly > > reports because her husband just got out of the hospital. > > > > I did know of the thread but as always the horses and my > animals > > come first AND NO ONE WILL CHANGE THAT! I had a vet appointment > > for my dog (recovering from surgery), farrier appointment and an > > appointment to work with Marlene to help her get caught up. I am > > now catching up on e-mails, responding to inquires from Animal > > Cruelty investigations, e-mailing you - then I have to get ready > > for a fundraising meeting. Also I can not comment on funds that is > > not my department - Marlene will need to shed light on that subject > > - I am sure she is nursing over her husband after working on CBER > > stuff all day and will not post in a hostile environment. > > > > In control - you are joking I am not in control - I am > CBERs slave > > - all I do is the physical work. > > > > There is no problem with seeing the finacials - they are > not ready > > and will most likely not be ready till May 15th - the date they are > > due for 501. > > > > Marlene and I went to our accountant and discussed the > issue you > > are brining up - if you would like to talk with our accountant who > > specialized in foundations and non-profits you are welcome but that > > will be on your dime as he is very expensive and CBER has already > > paid him once to get the answers to your accusations. > > > > There are no cover ups - STRONG ACCUSATION - when you are > proven > > wrong I expect a public apology! Every dime is accounted for - > > with an invoice - or necessary documentation. As you know 501 are > > audited and Marlene has made sure that everything is accounted for. > > > > You must be kidding - profit - I am living off of > something like > > $10 a year - My parents support me - all that CBER is doing is > > putting me further in debt. > > You are so off base I am done responding to you. > > > > Good luck to you - I am not running - the info will be made > > available when it is ready. > > > > Sam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 4, 2008, at 5:32 PM, Kennalley, Elizabeth wrote: > > > > > > > > > > But what you fail to see Sam is that I was only a > voice for the > > larger group, and the questions were not for just my own > > edification… they were so the group could see where their money > > goes every day/month/year. > > > > > > > > I’m sorry that questions regarding your business > feel so personal > > to you, and hope you find supporters who do not want transparency. > > > > > > > > There were many ON the board who were stating that > they were in > > contact with you and that you knew of the thread, so I’m sure you > > had the time to read it… but those with questions who really wanted > > clarification really just want to hear you address it yourself, to > > the group. > > > > > > > > The big picture with having a business, and in > particular a non > > profit, is that you can’t be in control. You are the one who IS > > controlled. There are not only laws, but there are your donors. > > Your bread and butter. They don’t direct control of each step, but > > they have control to an extent and for certain have the law behind > > their right to know where every penny is spent after the fact. The > > law supports how you can use the money, and it is strict on your > > not using your power of coercion (that is the power you have > > emotionally by holding out the horse who needs to be saved) to > > profit from the workings… ie: require QT at your ranch, to your > > profit (even if it doesn’t end a month in an excess over your > > monthly bills, it is profit as you are getting your bills paid > for!) > > > > > > > > As I have stated many times in the past, and > recently, I have > > been a strong supporter of CBER, it’s mission and how it is > > positioned to save horses. I certainly hoped that the outcome might > > have been a realization that transparency was the right way, and > > that there were some major errors in accounting that needed to be > > fixed pronto. > > > > The unfolding of behind the scenes cover-up of > finances has > > really gotten you in a poor light, but even that was repairable, if > > you wanted. > > > > The slap in the face of your supporters is > unfortunately not. > > > > > > > > Many of us have no money left after we work 40 > hours per week, > > come home, feed ourselves and pay bills… yet we have given every > > last penny, and put off paying debt to give you your pleas…. To > > find out that you are making more than many of us, and having your > > own horses and private bills paid plus ending with a hefty profit > > in the end is not one bit comforting. To answer your question… > > yes. Most of us DO work for less profit that that. > > > > And even tho we have given you that money for > these years… you > > kick dirt in our faces then turn and run. > > > > > > > > Let’s just say it doesn’t feel too good to anyone > right now. > > > > Beth > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: Samantha Milbredt > [mailto:camelotfarm@nwinfo.net] > > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 5:27 PM > > To: Kennalley, Elizabeth > > Subject: Re: CBER > > > > > > > > I am disappointed with you for not bringing your > concern to my > > attention personally and responded negatively towards you - I am > > sorry for that. The CBER followers should not be included in my > > frustration I have with you personally. You know I am not on the > > boards that much and if you had contacted me and Marlene your > > request would have been professionally handled. We have been > > considering going to our own board for some time now and with the > > recent developments the timing was appropriate. We felt that we > > needed to be in control of anything that is used as a CBER medium. > > Tash made one a fews months ago and now we have this one. We never > > utilized the one that Tash made but it was a change that was to > > take place. The attacks on the RO and rumors of Animal Cruelty > > charges supported our thinking. We also felt rejected, and > > belittled by being moved without any notice. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 4, 2008, at 3:50 PM, Kennalley, Elizabeth > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Wow Sam… > > > > There are a lot of people on the RO board, most > have been your > > devoted supporters emotionally as well as financially. > > > > The choice to tell us that you have an inner > sanctum and you want > > nothing to do with these long time supporters is quite a slap in > > the face, and will crush many long term relationships that have > > been made. > > > > Your true colors shine, and it saddens us to see it. > > > > I’m sorry, but wish you luck in your endeavor, > with your own > > board and supporters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Post by angelinmydreams on Apr 5, 2008 21:10:58 GMT -5
angelinmydreams are you thinking of "Sophie?" Yes it was Sophie . It was an outrage. There was another way back when I think his name was Painter. If I remember right he was bought and pad for then shipped but I can be wrong. Sophie's situation disgusted a lot of people. This kin of stuff is why I rarely donate money and why I rarely comment on the horses for sale. It jerks your heart and you are not sure if your money went to where you wanted it. The last time I donated was towards Rose ( TB prego mare in January) I don't think I got a thank you.
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Post by pikzeedust on Apr 5, 2008 21:24:55 GMT -5
I just fear for the CBER horses. Seriously,most of us on this board gave a lot of support financially. Beyond all of the disagreement, I feel so bad for the poor horses at the feedlot that will now have even less of a chance of being saved. Loosing RO is definitely going to affect them.
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Post by pnp4kidz on Apr 5, 2008 21:31:39 GMT -5
me too. the horses lose, and that is why many of us have sucked up and not pursued finding out more detail to the issues until now... but if we shift to local rescue, we can do more good for our money, and in the end more will be saved tha way anyway. and this way we won't be lining Chuck's pockets either. I really believe Chuck will stop buying so many when CBER stops buying so many... so they will be available elsewhere. there is a limit to how many the slaughter plants will buy... so they will be there for us somewhere...
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Post by rockymtnlvr on Apr 5, 2008 21:52:26 GMT -5
Isn't there anyone else local that would be able to evaluate the horses at the lot?
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Post by agilitygal on Apr 5, 2008 22:16:59 GMT -5
There are many feedlots. SOSequine rescue saves horses destined for the Mexican slaughterhouses and Canada as well (I have heard). And, that feedlot owner seems to have a very good eye for a quality riding horse. Lots of really, really, really nice horses have been saved from there. . .kid proof, beginner level horses. . .at a price lower than what Chuck and CBER charge for theirs. And, he seems to work with this rescue well which makes me think his heart is not as hardened.
There is also talk on this board about rescueing at auctions. . .before they get to the feedlot (for a considerable less price). Many horses could be rescued at auctions for the price of one feedlot horse.
So, the options are many. Most of the horses that hit a feedlot will not be saved. There is only so much we can do.
CBER will continue to do what they do with new members to replace us old ones who have now gone elsewhere. We all just need to follow our inner guidance about where the next step will take us. Apparently, the universe is shaking things up a bit and we are being reassigned. Another rescue, another feedlot horse, another auction horse, another starved horse is waiting for us to find it.
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Post by gratefulknits on Apr 5, 2008 22:34:55 GMT -5
The missing piece, as far as I can see, is that the combination of CBER with the RO was a great way to get people together who had different things to offer: some could help with bail, some with placing ads, some could offer homes. We could coordinate it all here, and CBER had the horses listed and assessed. Who is going to fill in that gap? If we decide we want to help out a horse at Joe Blow's auction yard, but don't have a home to offer, or know anything about the horse, how are we going to put up ads for that horse? Who are we going to send donations to for the benefit of the horse? I feel that we have lost a powerful means of combining skills/resources/homes, and as a result fewer horses will be helped.
And go ahead and scalp me for saying it. I'm not happy (understatement of the year) about this recent turn of events but I have to say I'm pretty disappointed in how it has been handled by most of the participants.
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Post by cybercat on Apr 5, 2008 22:36:13 GMT -5
We love you, Hope...
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Post by pikzeedust on Apr 5, 2008 22:36:56 GMT -5
I just feel like I was trying to do a good thing by giving money to CBER to save lives and we were dropped with no second thought about it. It sounds pathetic but I just feel like all that we've done (and many of you have done much much more than I have) was obviously so unappreciated. I am just thankful for the wonderful horse I was able to save and adopt.
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Post by pikzeedust on Apr 5, 2008 22:38:49 GMT -5
Yes, I'm having a pitty party!
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Post by jessiegirl1981 on Apr 5, 2008 22:40:21 GMT -5
I think we can all join together on a small scale to start( see auction rescue thread) I am sorry it happened at all but the lies need to come out. I am sickened and I promise u for me to have come out like this its pretty awful stuff that I am getting conformation on. I will post it when I am positive it is facts and then I hope u all understand. Nothing has been personal about this for me. I know many people involved I have never been slighted by CBER or have any bias. I am only saying what I am because I hate lies and I am all for the horses and the people on this board who have become my friends
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Post by pikzeedust on Apr 5, 2008 22:40:39 GMT -5
I'm 9 months pregnant so who knows in about 5 minutes from now I could be pissed and not sad............... No one really knows what mood is coming next
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Post by watermarkfarm on Apr 5, 2008 22:44:50 GMT -5
It's so sad.....My heart breaks for all the horses who will lose out.
I hope that people will redirect their efforts to helping horses on a more local level. For a long time, it has bothered me that we think nothing about plunking down $2,000 on a CBER horse (bail, QT, transport) to get it to CA, when that $2k could go so far here...
Like Heidi said, there are so many horses --- everywhere ---- who are suffering and need help.
I love the people I have met through this board. I have made some wonderful friends, people whom I am call on in times of need, or to offer my help to them. I feel blessed to have you in my life.
See you at the Barn Potluck on May 17 ---- let's get drunk!!
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