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Post by galaxy on Mar 23, 2008 9:51:06 GMT -5
OK- so some (about 4 of 8) of the horses ended up with Lice  Trainer has treated now four times with the powder (from the vet) and we still seem to have Lice. ( I am allergic to the powder so I cannot even touch my own horses  ). We wormed with Ivermectin right before the second application of powder. We started with three horses having them and now there is a fourth- every horse is treated with powder regardless. How does a horse that has been treated regularly get them now?  Vet said she has seen more Lice this year than ever before. 1. Does the powder work?  2. When you look for Lice does it just look like "dandruff at their mane area? I took a magnifier out and could not see any buggy boos. 3. The vet is now saying the powder is working but I have to bleach entire barn. Most of the "herd" is loose on 8 acres of property- is bleaching the barn going to fix an "environmental issue? 4. If the weather is to bad to bathe them what do you suggest?  I have suggestions of body clipping (we have blankets but I am concerned about them getting cold- and what do you do about the mane if you body clip), vinegar spray, bathe with Pine sol water (it is to cold). 5. Do the regular insect sprays work?  |
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Post by TashGaia on Mar 23, 2008 10:46:07 GMT -5
I get lice in every couple of months from new rescues. About half the horses I bring in end up having lice. This is what I do.
I have an entry exam for every new horse. If new horse has lice he get's dusted, and so does my entire herd (even though they don't have lice). I give the new horse some Ivermectin wormer. I turn the new horse out with the herd and then treat him again in 10 days and again 10 days after that. I will periodically check for lice in the rest of the herd, but so far when they have been dusted at the entry of a new horse with lice, they have not gotten any. ANYTHING that I use to touch the new horse (blankets, brushes, measuring tape) all get stored overnight in a sealed plastic bag with lice powder in it.
During shedding season, when I have a new licey horse, I go around and pick up all the tufts of hair. Another thing to note might be the fact that my entire herd get's Ivermectin wormer every other month.
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Post by Admin on Mar 23, 2008 11:35:55 GMT -5
I had a HUGE outbreak and powdered. Twice. It doesn't work effectively.
Our Vet informed me that this time of year when horses shed not only does the hair fly everywhere but birds also pick it up and carry it for miles to nest.
We used pyrethrine. We just mixed it in a garden pump sprayer and sprayed everyone. Lice were gone immediately!
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Post by emjay on Mar 23, 2008 11:49:58 GMT -5
I wonder if horse lice is the same as dog lice. My new puppy had some lice-obviously from living in the dump- and they were killed off easily. I was also told LEMON dish soap worked as effectively as the meds they used. I wonder, would that work on horses, worth a try, as lice are a very weak specimen. It's easy enough to buy and very affordable. Try it, might be a good trick. I have a bottle on hand here just in case, but, I think we should be safe now.
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Post by atticus on Mar 23, 2008 11:58:55 GMT -5
I actually use Frontline dog/cat spray for lice, it is can get expensive and is off label use but it always works and QUICK!! You get a 500 ml bottle and apply it directly to the skin on the horse, Finn used a whole 500 ml bottle. Treat once and then 3 weeks later and all done! It is also good for mites and ticks aas well as lice and fleas.
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Post by rescuestoribbons on Mar 23, 2008 12:27:11 GMT -5
Are you sure it is lice?
That is what we though Chia had when we got her but then Sam said she thought it was ringworm so we started treating her for that but when we shaved her and really looked at it, it looked like rain rot. Just an idea!
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Post by chatty on Mar 23, 2008 12:30:13 GMT -5
What does lice look like..We were told Sitka has lice, Bob says no...The only white dander I see is on her forhead, smack between and around her eyes... ?? don't know.... |
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Post by galaxy on Mar 23, 2008 12:54:26 GMT -5
All the horses that have the "Lice"- when you lift their manes you see a lot of what looks like dandruff- is this a sign of Lice?
We know that originally three had Lice (vet diagnosed) and now maybe a fourth one- the fourth round of powder was just done. And I have another horse showing up with them?
I have heard about Frontline- maybe a good option for the ones affected most?
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Post by cwinterburn ( RIP) We love YOU on Mar 23, 2008 13:57:45 GMT -5
Most lice are species specific - horse lice will not live on you - although thinking about lice is known to make you itch!
Horse lice come in two types... sucking and 'chewing' , the sucking lice - suck, blood of the horse, you kill them ( but not their eggs) with ivermectin wormers. The chewers eat dead skin and dander and are not much affected by ivermectin.
The first thing you have to do is determine what type your dealing with. If you've wormed w/ ivermectin and you still have them, either a new hatch as come out of their eggs or you've got chewers. ( if it seemed that they were going away and then in 10 days or so they were back -you got a new hatch.)
For the chewers there are a number of preparations but be careful around other life forms and make sure the chemicals do not get into any water source, they are deadly to fish and other aquatic animals.
And it is not as common but horses can sustain poultry lice, they don't thrive but if the horse is debilitated enough you can get poultry lice ( you don't have to have chickens, you can have pigeons in your barn). I've had some sucess with the powder they make for chickens.
The good news is - they're only bugs... and as the horse improves in condition, even if you do nothing, they move on as they prefer weakened hosts.
The reason you think lemon dish soap works is the same reason that 'flea soap' works on dogs, the detergent coats and suffocates the live fleas/lice. So if you bath in lice soap or any kind of soap, make sure you leave the lather on for at least 5 min. before you rinse.
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Post by lisam on Mar 23, 2008 19:47:45 GMT -5
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Post by cwinterburn ( RIP) We love YOU on Mar 23, 2008 20:27:28 GMT -5
So I've been reading up on lice ( I had to quit the excitement wasn't good for my heart) but one rescue said that for lice they use Listerine and for rain rot Listerine and vinegar 50/50. At least it couldn't hurt some of the chemicals have ugly side effects. Anybody else heard of Listerine?
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Post by pnp4kidz on Mar 23, 2008 23:12:16 GMT -5
I had one case of lice, on MistleToe,
she came down with them, and had thick long hair...
we shaved her, and clipped way up into her mane but didn't roach her... her mane hairs had tons of eggs visible on them, so we had to do something...!!!
anyway, then we read all of the stuff... and got all itchy ourselveS!
then we did this...
gave her a bath in dish soap, then followed with a microtek soaping and waiting...
then we put on the dog lice shampoo from Hartz which comes in a foam...
let that sit....
rinsed, then put Listerine all over her!
Poor thing...
then, as the piece de la resistance... wormed her with Ivermectin.
did it all again in a week just in case any lived thru round number one. :-)
then we used a fresh blankie for her to stay warm, it was February
anyways, it worked, but can't tell you which one did it!
:-) shotgun approach.... covered all bases
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Post by bnc2004 on Mar 24, 2008 0:26:14 GMT -5
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