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Post by cutiepiepmu on Apr 15, 2008 15:03:05 GMT -5
I was just told by a friend in oregon who is a vet that she is having good success freezing small to moderate size sarcoids using liquid nitrogen and that she has suggested the Dr. Scholls Freeze Away product to owners that can't get horses in to her.
Anyone have any thoughts on this or have you tried it? She is a younger vet - but I do respect her! I have used xterra in the past with good success - but this would certainly be easier!
Sara
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Post by angelinmydreams on Apr 15, 2008 15:14:55 GMT -5
I don't know about the mr freeze stuff. Those kind of tumers come back if not aggresively treated. My friend got a horse that had them all over his chest. He used to be right next door and when he first moved in I thought he was sick or something and I was freaked out but then his old owner told me about it. They treated him for awhile with having them freeze burned off as far as I know they have not came back . To keep them from picking at them use lice dust on the affected area they don't like the taste so they avoid scratching it. I have never heard of someone useing that product on a horse. I would say bite the bullet and haul the horse in and have it done, it would save in the long run. If you put it this way would you want to have a wart removed a billion times at home when you can go to the Dr and have it done maybe once. However if the treatment with the over t counter stuff does work maybe that would be better but if it were me I would not mess around just have it done.
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Post by TashGaia on Apr 15, 2008 15:32:07 GMT -5
I used that Exterra stuff with Nimir. It worked.
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Post by cutiepiepmu on Apr 15, 2008 16:10:42 GMT -5
I hadn't planned to use the freeze stuff at home - was just curious of thoughts. Malibu has a sarcoid in her ear - about the size of a small marble. I need to go pick up the xterra for her - I have used it with good success before. also looks like I need to get malibu's stifle injected has started to have alot of heat and swelling in it. Sara
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Post by angelinmydreams on Apr 15, 2008 22:46:58 GMT -5
I love the word stuff LOL it catches on pretty quike like. Sigh horses what would we do without them. I hope that everything goes ok. It sucks being in pain.
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Post by halfwayhome on Apr 16, 2008 1:31:15 GMT -5
The ones I saw treated with liquid nitrogen came back, and worse each time. Much better success with xxterra and if they are really large, debulking and then xxterra.
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Post by cutiepiepmu on Apr 16, 2008 2:55:08 GMT -5
I have always had great success with the xterra - although learned QUICKLY to use gloves when applying - the stuff will eat the skin off of your fingers in nothing FLAT! LOL
Sara
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Post by tinkerslady on Apr 16, 2008 9:09:45 GMT -5
I was just told by a friend in oregon who is a vet that she is having good success freezing small to moderate size sarcoids using liquid nitrogen and that she has suggested the Dr. Scholls Freeze Away product to owners that can't get horses in to her. Anyone have any thoughts on this or have you tried it? She is a younger vet - but I do respect her! I have used xterra in the past with good success - but this would certainly be easier! Sara Interesting, I had a vet treat mine with Blood Root (I think) It was really expensive (20 for a small amount) but it worked great and never came back on both horses.
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Post by mtangel on Apr 16, 2008 9:49:57 GMT -5
Blood root is Xxterra (or Indian mud). I read on another forum that sauerkraut juice will take care of sarcoids also. The poster said there was lots of info on the "Yahoo Sarcoid Group" and that is where her info came from.
I have a gray mare that has one and I have used the Xxterra and it works well.
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Post by shelberttk2 on Apr 18, 2008 12:19:23 GMT -5
XXtera does work wonderfully, but keep in mind that around fly season it's not good to use if you can keep from it. It works slowly, and usually makes the sarcoid look like hamburger....attracting flies!!! We freeze sarcoids at work all the time, I think I will even have my boss freeze this ugly wart growing on my foot off! GROSS!!!
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Post by cutiepiepmu on Apr 24, 2008 5:36:48 GMT -5
I started malibu with the xxterra - it is inside her ear, so worst case will just use a fly mask with ears till it is all healed
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Post by shelberttk2 on Apr 24, 2008 9:21:16 GMT -5
Sara, perfect!! My friend's horse had a nasty one on her chest...it was HUGE!! She started the XXtera in June The flies kept trying to blow it, it was sooo nasty!
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Post by cutiepiepmu on May 5, 2008 15:58:53 GMT -5
Well - the goofy girl decided her hamburger ear needed a good itch and managed to scratch OFF the sarcoid.... I freaked when I first found her out in the pasture. She had blood ALL over her face and down her neck. Sheesh - she looked like someone had tried to kill her or something. But, once I got her washed off and realized it was that she mangled her ear - not that she was wounded I did feel better.
So - I am now treating the spot where the sarcoid WAS with xterra till it heals to hopefully prevent it from re-growing.
Sometimes these horses try so hard to give us a heart attack!
Sara
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Post by qhflicka on May 6, 2008 15:27:13 GMT -5
Here is the very best Website about Sarcoids. Color pics of all the different types and discusses all the treatment options. It also mentions NOT to use Tea Tree Oil or Aloe Vera on Sarcoids as they are cell stimulators. pcwww.liv.ac.uk/sarcoid/facts.htmMy Belgian filly had a very large flat sarcoid on her chest. My vet told me to use pink Repel X/Swat wound medicine to keep the flies off it. Well, I do not know if it was a coincidence or not, but the sarcoid started shrinking. About three months later it had disappeared. Two years later, no sign of it growing back. The site above mentions a type of sarcoid in young horses that suddenly appears and then almost as suddenly starts shrinking and goes and never comes back.
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Post by qhflicka on May 6, 2008 15:37:45 GMT -5
Here is another interesting site. Sarcoids are caused by viruses and there many different types of sarcoids, some more serious than others, so some treatments will work on some and not others. According to this site, a lot of people recommend XTerra (Bloodroot) but a lot of people have had success using Crest toothpaste. www.horseadvice.com/horse/messages/4/9901.html
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Post by sunlightslady on May 6, 2008 16:48:43 GMT -5
best wishes you get it taken care of they are buggers to get rid of ....
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