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Post by countrygirl on Apr 13, 2009 19:40:14 GMT -5
It appears that CBER may have been "untruthful" once again (shock of shocks).  Back in Feb it was posted on the CBER board that Patches, the pretty paint gelding, was shipped to slaughter. That was on Feb 23rd - the same day that Tash and Rodeo51 were at the lot questioning whether or not a truck really came that day and Sam was supposedly "crying at the lot". If Patches was really shipped to slaughter, then why was there an ad for Patches on Equine Now advertising him for sale on March 1st? The ad has a picture of Patches and it was last updated on March 1st - 8 days AFTER they claimed he was shipped to slaughter. The ad has just recently been deleted but it was active and updated for quite a while after he was supposedly shipped. I have copies of the ad but I don't know how to post it. I would be happy to email it to someone if they would like to post it. |
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Post by TashGaia on Apr 13, 2009 19:49:18 GMT -5
Just to clarify... Jackie and I were there the morning of Feb 21st, not the 23rd. We hadn't been paying attention to CBER and did not even know that they were expecting a truck or else you can bet we would have better documented it. As it was, we did not find out about their truck until we were talking to another friend and mentioned our stop at the lot in passing and she put two and two together.
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Post by luvmypaints on Apr 13, 2009 19:57:54 GMT -5
It appears that CBER may have been "untruthful" once again (shock of shocks). Back in Feb it was posted on the CBER board that Patches, the pretty paint gelding, was shipped to slaughter. That was on Feb 23rd - the same day that Tash and Rodeo51 were at the lot questioning whether or not a truck really came that day and Sam was supposedly "crying at the lot". If Patches was really shipped to slaughter, then why was there an ad for Patches on Equine Now advertising him for sale on March 1st? The ad has a picture of Patches and it was last updated on March 1st - 8 days AFTER they claimed he was shipped to slaughter. The ad has just recently been deleted but it was active and updated for quite a while after he was supposedly shipped. I have copies of the ad but I don't know how to post it. I would be happy to email it to someone if they would like to post it. not sticking up for anyone here, but as a former add placer I do know that if the person who posted the add didn't delete it than it would stay on the site it was posted either until they did delete it or it ran out of the agreed time. I WISH Patches had been lucky enough to have been saved because of the add you saw but I don't think that wish came true  He was a real favorite of mine and I tried my damndest to get him safe, but it was out of my hands  |
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Post by countrygirl on Apr 13, 2009 20:02:35 GMT -5
Sorry Tash for the confusion. The Shipping receipt that was posted and the date you guys were at the lot was 2/21. CBER posted on 2/23 that Patches was shipped.
Luvmypaints - That's what I thought at first too. But the reason this is suspicious is that the ad was Updated (not just still active) AFTER Patches was "shipped to slaughter" Why would they update an ad and keep it current if the horse was dead?
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Post by luvmypaints on Apr 13, 2009 20:19:01 GMT -5
Sorry Tash for the confusion. The Shipping receipt that was posted and the date you guys were at the lot was 2/21. CBER posted that Patches was shipped on Feb 23rd. Luvmypaints - That's what I thought at first too. But the reason this is suspicious is that the ad was Updated (not just still active) AFTER Patches was "shipped to slaughter" Why would they update an ad and keep it current if the horse was dead? that I can't answer but it would make my day if he didn't ship and ended up being safe!!! There is way too much controversy going on all of the time for me to handle anymore! |
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Post by halfwayhome on Apr 13, 2009 21:29:41 GMT -5
So if reasoning follows the above, the shipping receipt supposedly dates 2/21, but they said the horse shipped 2/23?? which is correct? If so, this illustrates why they would be better off telling the truth, as eventually the stories stop matching...
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Post by jenm on Apr 13, 2009 23:55:25 GMT -5
the reason this is suspicious is that the ad was Updated (not just still active) AFTER Patches was "shipped to slaughter" Why would they update an ad and keep it current if the horse was dead? If this was an attractive horse, then it's likely the horse was secretly pulled because they thought they could make some decent money by selling it. I know that horses have been pulled off the lot when there is no bail money or even a home offer, and it's usually the horses that have a high probability of being sold. |
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Post by countrygirl on Apr 14, 2009 1:23:55 GMT -5
the reason this is suspicious is that the ad was Updated (not just still active) AFTER Patches was "shipped to slaughter" Why would they update an ad and keep it current if the horse was dead? If this was an attractive horse, then it's likely the horse was secretly pulled because they thought they could make some decent money by selling it. I know that horses have been pulled off the lot when there is no bail money or even a home offer, and it's usually the horses that have a high probability of being sold. That's what I think happened. Patches was a very attractive horse and they probably figured they could sell him. At the same time they might have wanted to generate some emotions because such a beautiful horse shipped. So they might have listed him as shipped and then tried to sell him on the side. The question is, did they find someone to buy him or did they give up and send him back through Chucks lot because he didn't sell.  Hopefully he got a home. |
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Post by countrygirl on Apr 14, 2009 1:27:27 GMT -5
So if reasoning follows the above, the shipping receipt supposedly dates 2/21, but they said the horse shipped 2/23?? which is correct? If so, this illustrates why they would be better off telling the truth, as eventually the stories stop matching... To clarify - CBER didn't say he actually shipped on 2/23, they posted on 2/23 that he shipped in the last shipment - which was 2/21. |
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Post by luvmypaints on Apr 14, 2009 7:56:47 GMT -5
If he didn't ship than where was he kept? I picked up 2 horses at Sam's after that fiasco and he was not on her place!
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Post by mtangel on Apr 14, 2009 8:30:32 GMT -5
I thought tashgaia had posted before that $am has another place (pasture) she keeps horses, that they don't charge her much(??). Please correct me if I'm wrong tash (wouldn't be the first time! lol).
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Post by TashGaia on Apr 14, 2009 15:12:27 GMT -5
Yes. Sam had a separate pasture that she has traditionally used for putting horses who according to her were enjoying their final summer.
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Post by halfwayhome on Apr 14, 2009 16:20:16 GMT -5
Yes, there is that one, plus there is another one she has used too.
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Post by jenm on Apr 14, 2009 16:37:58 GMT -5
Yes. Sam had a separate pasture that she has traditionally used for putting horses who according to her were enjoying their final summer. Yes, there is that one, plus there is another one she has used too. Ah, yes. The famous pastures where horses just sometimes laid down and died of "unknown" causes... |
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Post by horsesrkewl on Apr 14, 2009 17:16:33 GMT -5
Yes. Sam had a separate pasture that she has traditionally used for putting horses who according to her were enjoying their final summer. Yes, there is that one, plus there is another one she has used too. Ah, yes. The famous pastures where horses just sometimes laid down and died of "unknown" causes... LOL!! Wasn't that Waynes pasture??? |
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Post by TashGaia on Apr 14, 2009 17:37:05 GMT -5
LOL!! Wasn't that Waynes pasture??? No... separate place. Lavendar & Meadow, et all supposedly went to "Wayne's Pasture". The other one is where Chet went. |
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Post by beejoyfulmk on Apr 14, 2009 17:40:26 GMT -5
chet?
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Post by beckybee on Apr 14, 2009 18:10:27 GMT -5
Joan has Chet. Do you mean Adam? (whatever did happen to Adam, btw? I offered a home, but Sam said she wanted to find a high-visibility, performance home for him so he would be a showcase of the quality horses that went to slaughter) |
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Post by TashGaia on Apr 14, 2009 18:50:52 GMT -5
No. Chet. 10-12yr chestnut gelding who was at CBER for a long time. He died in the fall/winter of 2007 at Sam's extra pasture. If memory serves me he died right after poor Dazzler's tragedy and so CBER decided to wait to tell anyone until the beginning of 2008.
MTA: Adam went to a good home down in Cali. I've read updates about him on Julianne's board.
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Post by beckybee on Apr 14, 2009 19:49:00 GMT -5
Didn't Royal Reign used to be a Chet, too?
I was going through my email and saw that Sam offered to send a Chet down to me in June 07 in trade for Zephyr. Sam said she knew the old owner (prior to owner who sold him to Chuck) and he was "a good ranch horse just a little hot at times."
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Post by jenm on Apr 15, 2009 0:31:57 GMT -5
No. Chet. 10-12yr chestnut gelding who was at CBER for a long time. He died in the fall/winter of 2007 at Sam's extra pasture. If memory serves me he died right after poor Dazzler's tragedy and so CBER decided to wait to tell anyone until the beginning of 2008. How strange, I happen to have an email from Sam dated 1/24/08 that states there was no QT paid for Chet from Aug-Nov 2007 to the tune of $1200.00. No wonder Chet up and "died". |
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He was a real favorite of mine and I tried my damndest to get him safe, but it was out of my hands 
Hopefully he got a home. 
