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Post by jenm on Nov 13, 2007 16:14:59 GMT -5
We work so hard to place our feedlot horses and then I see a post like this from Joe: www.tbfriends.com/Tuesday, November 13th... Crazy, this horse world. Last week at an auction in Arizona dozens of pregnant thoroughbred mares sold for less than $400.00 each.
At a recent auction in Southern California there were 69 horses who failed to receive a bid. Back at the barn area horse killer Manny Phelps bought 7 of them, including 2 who are pregnant.
Last week in Turlock, California horse killer Wade Giles loaded a cattle trailer with 21 horses. They left for slaughter in Canada.
Last week in Elk Grove, California horse killer Manny Phelps loaded a cattle trailer with 18 horses. They left for slaughter in Canada.
Last week in Chowchilla, California horse killer Reno Sanchez loaded a cattle trailer with 15 horses. They left for slaughter in Mexico.
54 is the total. 54 horses gone in one week. There could obviously be more that I am not aware of.
I write everything down. Realizing this is the best way to carry on with my life. Last week I received more than 40 phone calls. Take my horse or else...
From a lady in Vacaville: Please take my old mare so I do not have to watch her starve to death this winter.
From another lady in Vacaville: It is your fault my mare is gonna die. You better take her to your ranch, or her death will be on you.
From a girl in Rio Linda: There is no money for hay. Please come get my 3 geldings, or I will be forced to take them to auction.
From a girl in Roseville: How can you turn me down? I thought you were a rescue ranch?
From a girl in Lincoln: My boyfriend says it is either him or my mare, so please come get my mare.
From a man in West Sacramento: I think my gelding broke his shoulder so can you come get him?
From a man in Bozeman, Montana: Do you come this far to get horses?
From a lady in Henderson, Nevada: When can you come with your trailer and pick up my old mare?
From a girl who I have previously met: My mom says I am bi polar so I must get rid of my horse. Can you take him? I never liked him anyway.
Crazy, this horse world. 43 phone calls totaling more than 60 horses.
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Post by frr2 on Nov 13, 2007 16:22:35 GMT -5
So sad... and he is such a small part of those who even get calls.
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Post by pnp4kidz on Nov 13, 2007 18:01:12 GMT -5
Oh it makes me so mad! why do they buy them and think of them as disposable? the old ones are the worst... just put them down. here is where I go back to the bullet. I'd rather see them shot now than starve over winter. I don't know how Joe does it. Folks out there 'think' that just because you get a non-profit 501c3, or even say you rescue, that 'funding' somehow comes to you for free... or help... volunteers... where does that idea come from? the funding is from my job, the work is from me and peg, the vet and farrier charge full price, and even come cranky sometimes because we have 'so many'.... and 'why are you keeping this old mare alive? she can't 'work'?" grrrr..... off my box.
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Post by agilitygal on Nov 13, 2007 18:23:32 GMT -5
Hear ye. Hear ye.
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Post by MustangAppy on Nov 13, 2007 19:00:47 GMT -5
The idot female in Lincoln who is giving up the horse for the boyfriend is sending the wrong one packing. Anyone who makes you give up what you love for them doesn't love you. He won't last, and she will regret that decision forever. Many of these sound familiar. I get them all the time about rescue dogs. We are having problems dealing with our dog, if you don't take it I will send it to the shelter and it will be put down. What in the hell is wrong with people??
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Post by maverick on Nov 13, 2007 19:07:42 GMT -5
It makes me sick!
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Post by beejoyfulmk on Nov 13, 2007 19:16:52 GMT -5
Amen!!!!
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Post by penny/pals on Nov 13, 2007 19:45:23 GMT -5
I read the post and got a chill up my back and my throat tightened, tiers came to my eyes because I know this is just the beginning. I see ads for free horses left and right, lame horses with hip and back problems advertised as great brood mares. I have seen people who say they do rescue that are breeding these animals papered or not good confirmation or not and think to myself why rescue if you keep adding to the problem... I have even seen this behavior on this and other sights. I read on the ads of horse needs home "I rescued a mare from a horrible situation and breed her to my stallion now I need to get rid of her not enough space/hay/time/money and oh I want the baby back" SICKSICK SICK
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Post by calypso on Nov 13, 2007 20:13:42 GMT -5
I see the same thing in the cat world. It's very depressing.
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Post by sunlightslady on Nov 13, 2007 20:14:13 GMT -5
What is up with the people breeding horses and selling them with option to breed back at a discount but they have too many horses. This one makes my blood boil.....I love my mare but now she is in her twenties I need to get rid of her it really breaks my heart to sell her but if i dont find a home it is to the auction too many horses but will trade for a younger horse.......What the helll!!!!
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Post by mindywa on Nov 13, 2007 20:20:08 GMT -5
The idot female in Lincoln who is giving up the horse for the boyfriend is sending the wrong one packing. Anyone who makes you give up what you love for them doesn't love you. He won't last, and she will regret that decision forever. Many of these sound familiar. I get them all the time about rescue dogs. We are having problems dealing with our dog, if you don't take it I will send it to the shelter and it will be put down. What in the hell is wrong with people?? Exactly. Its a well known and understood fact, I will never give up my horses. The only thing that would ever come between my horses and me would be my kids. Not another single solitary thing. Its been argued about before. The argument ends the same all the time. I'll be single and out to find my own home before I pick you over my horses. Just my 2 cents. I too will climb off my soapbox now.
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Post by pikzeedust on Nov 13, 2007 20:20:30 GMT -5
To think that these are the people these innocent horses are left to count on. How sad. Some people should never be allowed to own animals of any kind.
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Post by penny/pals on Nov 13, 2007 20:22:18 GMT -5
I wish there was a shot we could give rescues that would make them sterile at least that might take a few horses out of that equation
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Post by maverick on Nov 13, 2007 20:22:54 GMT -5
Oh I just love the one "will trade old horse for a saddle" WTF!
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Post by penny/pals on Nov 13, 2007 20:31:39 GMT -5
I know I just read that one I swear on craigs list...
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Post by mykingdomforahorse on Nov 13, 2007 22:33:32 GMT -5
So well said, pikzeedust. It's scary what some people do to their animals. I can't fathom missing that "piece" that knows compassion and love AND the value of an animal, and of course I don't mean money. As a being. As a worthy soul pretty much "perfect" in comparison to human beings. There but for the grace of God go they. I fear for them all. Em To think that these are the people these innocent horses are left to count on. How sad. Some people should never be allowed to own animals of any kind.
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Post by gypsy79 on Nov 13, 2007 22:45:11 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Nov 14, 2007 3:19:10 GMT -5
I believe the horse crisis will get much worse before it gets better. Once slaughter transport is stopped there will be even more of an abundance of unwanted horses. It will take time for everything to get handleable. NOW is the time to gear up for that blessed day so we can take care of these much deserving animals!
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Post by swissgrl on Nov 14, 2007 8:00:40 GMT -5
It is amazing how many people think of their animals as disposable. They're family members, they are just like kids, depend on us to take care of them.
They wouldn't dispose of their kids like that if things get tough.
My favorite one is the "We are having a baby, and will not be able to spend as much time with our beloved pet as it deserves". So if the second baby comes around, are they going to find a home for the first one, because they can't spend as much time with that one either? I always wanted to ask them. Having a little love, and attention, a save, warm home, and food is better than ending up at the shelter or slaughter.
It's all about education, unfortunately there are a lot of stupid people on this planet.
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Post by beckybee on Nov 14, 2007 10:22:47 GMT -5
Yeah, at the end of the "to good home" ads for beloved Fifi or Fido, in my head I always add "because he doesn't have one now!" Why not make the changes in YOUR life in order to "give him the attention he deserves" rather than dumping him on strangers?
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Post by agilitygal on Nov 14, 2007 12:15:58 GMT -5
Yup. . .because he doesn't have a good one now! Sick isn't it. . . . I think the people need to be rehomed.
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Post by watermarkfarm on Nov 14, 2007 14:54:25 GMT -5
I think PEC is right ---- it will get much worse before it gets better.
It may sound cold, but.....I think us horse rescue people need to devote equal time to figuring out how to rescue horses as well as facilitate a humane euthanasia for others. There just isn't enough homes out there.
Maybe some of us should learn how to euthanize horses and then offer our services for free?
Katie (zipping on flame suit)
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Post by afinenettle on Nov 14, 2007 15:43:41 GMT -5
I think PEC is right ---- it will get much worse before it gets better. It may sound cold, but.....I think us horse rescue people need to devote equal time to figuring out how to rescue horses as well as facilitate a humane euthanasia for others. There just isn't enough homes out there. Maybe some of us should learn how to euthanize horses and then offer our services for free? I agree and yes we have to come to terms with this as a horse rescue community. Look how upset people were when less than full on sedated pink juice euthanasia was mentioned for very ill horses. We tend to lose sight of the fact that we are fighting an industry that encourages overbreeding so as to make a profit on slaughter. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYIN TO STOP. That is the first step in ensuring a better life for horses. People - MANY HORSES WILL HAVE TO BE PUT DOWN. EVEN HEALTHLY ONES. There are not enough homes for the interim situation between cessation of slaughter and reduction of breeding. We are the ones that need to spearhead a response to this. Certainly placing as many as possible BUT preventing abuse and starvation by offering a cost effective alternative. Kate (spritzing with flame retardant....)
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Post by TashGaia on Nov 14, 2007 16:29:18 GMT -5
I know that if there was a much more affordable euthanazia/removal option that I would be far more willing to bid on some horses at auction. For example... all those horses that go through for under $100. I do not have a problem paying that and then putting them down, the problem comes with the fact that in my area that costs about $800. For $800 I can often rehab a horse and find it a new home... so I currently have to chose between saving a life and gracefully ending one. I am sorry for them, but if it comes to a choice of saving or ending a life, I choose to save one.
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Post by earlybp on Nov 14, 2007 18:13:43 GMT -5
Want to hear something really sad? I read in one of my horse magazines that US horse slaughter only represents about 2% of the horse slaughter worldwide. That means that 4.5 Million horses are slaughtered worldwide. I'll have to find the source for that stat.
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Post by gypsyrn on Nov 14, 2007 23:33:16 GMT -5
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