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Post by maloney on Jan 27, 2007 20:36:46 GMT -5
So, maybe this is a bad idea....maybe it's too complicated...but I thought I would at least throw it out there....
Okay here it goes...
I think I speak for us "too far away" people when I say we feel helpless.
I am a college student, so in no way do I have the money to adopt a horse, and then have the funds to ship the horse here. .....Nor do I have the money to donate, as much as I would LOVE to help, I really just can't. I am responsible for feeding and caring for my own horse, plus pay for books, rent, etc on my own limited budget.
So.....here is my idea for those of us who want to help...
What if we can sort of "loan" money to adopt a horse as a group, maybe someone can quarentine, someone can pay for board, and we, as a community can find the horse a home at a "marketable" a.k.a. = a higher price, than what we adopted the horse for. Then, we all get paid back, and the left over money goes to the next horse, AND the horse finds a new home.
So...what are your thoughts?
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Post by jessiegirl1981 on Jan 27, 2007 21:08:13 GMT -5
ooooh I like that
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Post by atticus on Jan 27, 2007 23:57:54 GMT -5
Sounds like a good idea to me.  |
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Post by pnp4kidz on Jan 28, 2007 0:15:22 GMT -5
It is complicated...
but there are some of us smaller rescues who are always in HUGE need for help in placing horses that we've saved, QT'd and helped along...
and then we'd have room for the next one!
For instance, at Founder Rehab we took in 2 PMU foals and 4 pregnant mares, 2 years ago... we foaled out the mares, and now, the foals are coming 2, and the foals are 3. So, we now feel OK finding new homes for the 3 year olds (a registered QH gelding and a draft cross gelding), and for the coming 2 year old that is left... (reg. QH filly)...
we also rescued a QH type mare last year... just underweight and unwanted, dumped here.
and one who will be ready to go soon, rehabbed from a huge wound on her rear leg...
The thing is, we all have our best attributes...
and 'sales' is NOT one of ours!
we are great at rehab... and loving care...
and when we have room, we fill it fast! but, we need the 'last' part of this equation... marketing and sales....
but we are glad to be in the circuit for this plan...
if marketing is out there!!!
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Post by atticus on Jan 28, 2007 0:29:02 GMT -5
If any of you guys need any marketing I have a Petfinder.com account I can list them on, and I have listed Jims horses and he is getting alot of hits on them and calls. I would be willing to list anyones horse on my petfinder account that needs a little more exposure. Just send me a description and picture. |
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Post by pnp4kidz on Jan 28, 2007 0:48:34 GMT -5
I'd be glad to get a description and pics to you!!!
thank you!!!
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Post by atticus on Jan 28, 2007 0:57:19 GMT -5
I'd be glad to get a description and pics to you!!! thank you!!! Sounds good |
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Post by jenm on Jan 28, 2007 0:57:47 GMT -5
Another thing we can do to help place horses is to browse regional Craigslist ads for people looking for horses. We can play "matchmaker". We would need a set group of people willing to keep an eye out for horse wanted ads. Since CL is everywhere, we might be able to help place horses from more than one rescue organization.
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Post by blazinsaddles on Jan 28, 2007 1:54:53 GMT -5
count me in to help anyway i can
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Post by jessiegirl1981 on Jan 28, 2007 2:59:41 GMT -5
me too I can reply to craigs list ads if we have the full info on whats available I think thats the best way to go. I think a regular person not familiar with rescues that just wants a horse will want full info and a place to access pics I think that is a big draw. I think if we are bringing people into the community for a fresh pool to draw from then we need to work on something like that?
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Post by ebo on Jan 28, 2007 10:20:19 GMT -5
Good ideas! I think we all feel badly when we can't donate money to help any horse, or every horse, but $facts are $facts.
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Post by Charsgma on Jan 28, 2007 15:31:45 GMT -5
So, maybe this is a bad idea....maybe it's too complicated...but I thought I would at least throw it out there.... Okay here it goes... I think I speak for us "too far away" people when I say we feel helpless. I am a college student, so in no way do I have the money to adopt a horse, and then have the funds to ship the horse here. .....Nor do I have the money to donate, as much as I would LOVE to help, I really just can't. I am responsible for feeding and caring for my own horse, plus pay for books, rent, etc on my own limited budget. So.....here is my idea for those of us who want to help... What if we can sort of "loan" money to adopt a horse as a group, maybe someone can quarentine, someone can pay for board, and we, as a community can find the horse a home at a "marketable" a.k.a. = a higher price, than what we adopted the horse for. Then, we all get paid back, and the left over money goes to the next horse, AND the horse finds a new home. So...what are your thoughts? It's a great idea but you need to go to the CBER website and look at all the horses that are in foster care or are CBER sponsored. They have been there for a very long time waiting for homes. The facts are if the horse is not in danger of slaughter then they are not at risk. People want to help the at risk horses. I would hate for you guys to do this and then not have any where to go with the horse if it does not sell in a year or two! |
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Post by maloney on Jan 28, 2007 17:43:00 GMT -5
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It's a great idea but you need to go to the CBER website and look at all the horses that are in foster care or are CBER sponsored. They have been there for a very long time waiting for homes. The facts are if the horse is not in danger of slaughter then they are not at risk. People want to help the at risk horses.
I would hate for you guys to do this and then not have any where to go with the horse if it does not sell in a year or two![/quote]
Thank you Deb. That is very true and I definatly agree that it could be difficult to place some of the horses-- usually the ones with no training are the hardest. I have considered that.
But we also need to take into consideration that we all come from different backgrounds, we have different skills and we all want to help the horses.
I think if we teamed up together, for example: if someone houses the horse, someone trains, someone advertises the horse, someone specializes in writing up the description- and markets the horse as something specific (like a barrel racer, or a jumper or a hunter) the horse will be more likely to find a good home.
Horses are more marketable if they are something specific. If someone wants a horse, they know what they want. Unfortunalty a "prospect" or an "all-around" horse is not marketable because they are not good at one specific thing. And when someone wants a jumper, they don't usually want a "jumper prospect" most people these days are looking for trained horses.
As a group we have a better chance of finding a trained and well-marketed horse a home, rather than only one person trying to find a untrained and unregistered horse a home. Also if 10 people are advertising these horses in their home towns, in newspapers and online- word will get out.
Any more ideas? Let's keep this rolling.
You can count me in.
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Post by galaxy on Jan 28, 2007 20:41:11 GMT -5
Here is my two cents worth.
I think the idea is great- I am not so sure of the logistics of it though. I have 8 rescued horses on my property now (6 of my own). I have one up for adoption right now that I am asking only a fraction of the money that has gone into him- at this point no takers. He is an very well trained horse already and he is willing.
With the price of rescue then the cost of QT, most horses are already over $1100. then add the feed for say three months (it costs me between $4-$5/day per horse depending on the individual needs (low $480.) Training depending can be $300+ per month and most would need 2-3 months ($600-$900). You have to pay farrier, vet, shots and worming. All these items add up quickly so if you think that you are going to sell for a profit, please go into this knowing what to expect for expenses.
I do not want to discourage anyone trying to help-I just want to make sure you know what to expect.
Thank you all for caring about these horses- we are all they have left.
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Post by asilive on Jan 28, 2007 23:28:22 GMT -5
i think this is a really good idea, but it would be pretty hard. if anyone starts one, let me know, because i would be happy to help if i can.
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Post by jessiegirl1981 on Jan 29, 2007 0:53:32 GMT -5
I went to my local feed stores and all the adds for horses with no spectacular breeding were at least 2000 or more horses are a bit pricey here and we have had an influx of people with money and have nabbed up lots of land. I think we have a good shot
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Post by eirualaerdna on Jan 29, 2007 1:01:41 GMT -5
Well, I've been searching horse related rescues, pet finders of all kinds for a LONG time and I'm good at marketing, and based in the bay area. I might not have a lot of money to donate, but I can certainly write! (it's what I do), so needless to say if you need someone in california in the bay area to market rescue horses, I'm your girl. let me know if I can help.
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Post by jessiegirl1981 on Jan 29, 2007 1:03:39 GMT -5
I am so excited I think this will work I too have been all over sites and I think we can make a real go at this
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Post by eirualaerdna on Jan 29, 2007 1:16:02 GMT -5
If someone could start feeding me specifics (age, gender, location, breed, beg-adv ridability, price, ect.) and a picture or two I can get started on some marketing at least. Try to give me horses in my area so I can give them maximum exposure. (Not limited to my area though! I can do online marketing as well for any location.)
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Post by pnp4kidz on Jan 29, 2007 10:18:42 GMT -5
OK, this is way OT, but how the heck do you SAY eirualaerdna?
and is it your name? or an acronym? or ... oh, geeze, I'm just way stupid at these screen names anyway!
takes me forever unless it's like... "halfwayhome", I got that... and "horsesrkewl"... ok, past that I'm a total loser...
back ON topic... to save my butt...
I will shoot you some stuff... on at least my rescues ready to rehome...
Im in the East Bay. Where are you?
you could come meet them too if you want!
oh shoot.. you can come groom them too!
thanks!
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Post by pnp4kidz on Jan 29, 2007 10:20:41 GMT -5
Maybe we can start a thread of horses who need ads?
so I can post pics/links to my photobucket..
and tell about each one?
should we use the 'rescue horses needing new homes"?
that would put them up here too... even if my ad writing leaves much to be desired....
would that work?
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Post by cybercat on Jan 29, 2007 10:53:15 GMT -5
Beth, are you listed as a rescue on this board? I thought you were...we can start your own page for you to add your horses and the gals who will post the ads can contact you directly? Is that workable for you?
Leanne
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Post by eirualaerdna on Jan 29, 2007 13:09:06 GMT -5
Haha, most people don't get that SN unless they're dislexic. It is my name... backwards. Andrea Laurie. Just call me Dre. It's hwat everyone calls me. Anyway, I'd be happy to come by! I'm in hayward and you are where? Here's my email for the horses' information - truthresideswithin@gmail.com anyone else feel free to give me info!
I can post on other places, make fliers, advertise anywhere and everywhere potential adopters might be. As for online, we can start here with our own thread or horses needing homes thread so we can get the info on here for anyone to get at, instead of emailing the info if it works better? (it really might work best that way, actually.)
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Post by cybercat on Jan 29, 2007 13:20:18 GMT -5
Hi Dre! I just started a thread under the Urgent Projects for the Wanted ads, and we already had a thread for rescued horses needing new homes....so take a look there...also, we may be able to add some of the horses from our rescues if we have their permission...
and it looks like the Wanteds are for well broke gentle kid type horses, so we'd have to get assessments from the people currently working with those horses...
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Post by eirualaerdna on Jan 29, 2007 14:25:33 GMT -5
yes, and that's why I'd prefer to have people contact me about their own rescues, or people working with a rescue. That way I can play a match maker. I know what horses I have in my little "data base" and I can find the people looking for something specific. I can get them in contact with what they're looking for. AND/OR I can adverise a specific horse with his/her information given to me by the person that has the horse, so I know that person is aware I'm advertising for them.
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