NanciK
Super Pooper Scooper
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Post by NanciK on Dec 1, 2008 11:28:36 GMT -5
"thrashing through all the CBER drama" is NOT "high school drama"...!!!! All of this crap that is coming to light that CBER has done and is doing HAS TO STOP! What they have done and are now doing is illegal, immoral, amoral, and shows how selfish, greedy and without a conscious they are. If we and especially others who know upfront what CBER's crimes are let this keep on happening and doing nothing is LETTING HORSES SUFFER!!!! Isn't this what we are here for, to SAVE horses??? If we see and know that horses are suffering and being used to make money off and horses are being killed to end up just making money, then aren't the horses all around us suffering??? The money that so many of us gave to CBER to save horses is just put into their personal pockets and is not being used to really save horses. So, then, more horses starve to death and are neglected and abused because that $$ we gave to CBER is not there for their help. I am ragefully disgusted and extremely shocked at what CBER is doing to horses and to people who love horses and who are 'fooled' by their greediness and amoral acts, not to mention, what has been done to so many of those horses that were supposedly 'under their care.' The longer people who just stand around and do nothing about CBER is just allowing more horses to be shot, including the horses that will not be fed and/or saved in the future because that $$ is gone. Anyone who knows exactly and for sure what CBER has done and is doing and then does or says nothing to the appropriate authorities....well...then, you get my drift. Aimee Hay for Horses OK, can someone please explain just why we are thrashing through all the CBER drama ... AGAIN? I thought that this was the non-CBER board? Lots of drama, lots of time and effort looking into website stats, re-hashing old info ... c'mon people, there are TONS of horses out there needing your time and effort. Why on earth waste your time posting on this topic which has been rehashed time and again, here and elsewhere? This seems a little too much like high school drama to me. Aimee, I admire your passion for the horses. One question ... this has been going on since May 2006 ... are you really ... JUST NOW ... after 2.5 years, learning about it for the first time? If so, I suggest that you connect with these ladies for background, but truthfully, it's all been said over and over and over on this BB and others, for 2.5 years now. That's what I mean by "re-hash".
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Post by Admin on Dec 1, 2008 12:58:37 GMT -5
I am aware of an older TB mare that has been at Sam's since September 08. There has been a person who has paid her QT and board since then. 4 mos later, the horse is now being stated as dangerous, per Sam. What happens to her now? I don't see any old dangerous TB broodmares. I see Sam tiring of this horse. This has been and continues to be a regular pattern.
When Darlene and I ( Exceller Fund ) told Sam we were no longer taking CBER horses due to the mix ups, pricing and CBER killing with either bullet or sending them to BACK to slaughter is when Sam told everyone it was her decision to not send horses to us.
That is a lie. Sam's version DID NOT happen. When my pocketbook no longer opened to her I was the bad guy!
It is all about the money and has nothing to do with the horses. If the horse can't make a few bucks for Sam, then off with its head.
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Post by agilitygal on Dec 1, 2008 15:22:24 GMT -5
So sad. So many "saved" horses lost. . .and. . .I had rescue money on most of the names above. There are many reasons why I left CBER and more just keeps surfacing. A couple years ago I walked away and never looked back. It was one of my better decisions.
As with most of you, my donations were at a sacrifice to myself, my family, and my dog rescue efforts. Wish those of you who finally came forward a couple of years ago had done so earlier. . .and, I realize that you did so at risk to yourselves. Wish it had been sooner. I spent years donating to CBER before I realized what was happening.
I found a good home with SOS equine rescue and continue to help with those efforts. There are other rescues out there who are doing a good job and who are upfront and honest with the horses, their supporters, and each other. So many animals need our rescue help. Everywhere. Times are hard and the animals are paying.
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Post by lorsadoon on Dec 1, 2008 21:46:48 GMT -5
OK, can someone please explain just why we are thrashing through all the CBER drama ... AGAIN? Because, the same thing keeps going on and on and onI thought that this was the non-CBER board? I am guessing this just means CBER does not sell their horses here any more.Lots of drama, lots of time and effort looking into website stats, re-hashing old info ... c'mon people, there are TONS of horses out there needing your time and effort. You know what, I have 9 horses here now, 7 of which are rescues. My time and effort goes to them now. And my money goes to rescues who will not have horses that I helped pay for shot. (RIP-Lavender and Meadow)Why on earth waste your time posting on this topic which has been rehashed time and again, here and elsewhere? It is not a waste of time if will help one person or one horse.This seems a little too much like high school drama to me. When I was in high school the drama was not about innocent horses getting shot, donors having their money taken and the horses shipping anyway and cat killing "beloved" hired hands. Need I go on?Nanci, you have the freedom to support Sam and CBER, just as I have the freedom to not support them. I just want to know one thing. Do you think what they have done is right and just and moral?
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Post by leosolis on Dec 2, 2008 2:06:49 GMT -5
OK, can someone please explain just why we are thrashing through all the CBER drama ... AGAIN? Because, the same thing keeps going on and on and onI thought that this was the non-CBER board? I am guessing this just means CBER does not sell their horses here any more.Lots of drama, lots of time and effort looking into website stats, re-hashing old info ... c'mon people, there are TONS of horses out there needing your time and effort. You know what, I have 9 horses here now, 7 of which are rescues. My time and effort goes to them now. And my money goes to rescues who will not have horses that I helped pay for shot. (RIP-Lavender and Meadow)Why on earth waste your time posting on this topic which has been rehashed time and again, here and elsewhere? It is not a waste of time if will help one person or one horse.This seems a little too much like high school drama to me. When I was in high school the drama was not about innocent horses getting shot, donors having their money taken and the horses shipping anyway and cat killing "beloved" hired hands. Need I go on?Nanci, you have the freedom to support Sam and CBER, just as I have the freedom to not support them. I just want to know one thing. Do you think what they have done is right and just and moral? completely off topic...but I was in Oregon City for thanksgiving, I meant to call you multiple times for coffee but always got side tracked maybe next time.
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Post by leosolis on Dec 2, 2008 2:57:42 GMT -5
Hi All, We seem to have become a fodder for gossip again. Please try and keep to saving the horses and not the stench of bitterness. We are a great group and work well together. I would like it to continue. If you have any legit questions that pertain to the horses let me know. If it is to cause anger or hurt someone leave. This place is to find homes for slaughter bound horses not to continue to bring up old stuff. WE have more important things to do. Have a great day, Shelley Shelly, I have a question. When was CBER planning on correcting there error on Sam's site? I am pretty sure I made it crystal clear that neither Trumpkin or Reuben were ever seized by Benton County nor at The Lazy Spur. Its extemely misleading & well quite honestly now that you have been made aware of the facts its false advertising. This message board hasn't been corrected yet either & I would think that would be fairly easy since any admin on this board can do so. Do you guys need something from the DA's office to make the change? or were you just planning on ignoring the issue all together?
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Post by leosolis on Dec 3, 2008 2:07:39 GMT -5
Shelly, I have a question. When was CBER planning on correcting there error on Sam's site? I am pretty sure I made it crystal clear that neither Trumpkin or Reuben were ever seized by Benton County nor at The Lazy Spur. Its extemely misleading & well quite honestly now that you have been made aware of the facts its false advertising. This message board hasn't been corrected yet either & I would think that would be fairly easy since any admin on this board can do so. Do you guys need something from the DA's office to make the change? or were you just planning on ignoring the issue all together? well I wasn't exactly Banned..they just deleted my account. I asked a very legitimate question & they seem to think that false advertising is ok. I talked with the deputy today & she went to the website. Anyone know Shelly's phone number? She wants to talk with her tomorrow. I find it odd that they Need to verify there facts NOW...what about doing that first? I guess the person that loaded & hauled everyone one of those horses from the place they were seized from in July & the person that was responsible for them all since July & the person that hauled the horses to the sale for the county (under contract to do so) wouldn't know if they were actually part of the horses seized.... on a side note...I also see that many of the koolaide drinkers think that I brought it to light who the horses were...follow the link that your fearless leader provided...It is very clear that the horses were seized by Benton county & in my care.
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Post by TashGaia on Dec 3, 2008 2:23:20 GMT -5
They deleted your account? WOW! Guess they didn't like you pointing out the fact that those horses weren't the ones from the seizure. If it was an accident, then why are they so defensive? Most folks would have apologized and fixed the error... not banned - excuse me, deleted - the person and refused to change the info.
I guess all that talk on their board about wanting rescues to work together is just so much hooey. They say false info about another rescue, refuse to correct it, then ban the president of that rescue when she informs them of their mistake and asks them to fix it.
I would say that I don't believe it, but it is classic karanoid CBER.
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Post by leosolis on Dec 3, 2008 2:28:27 GMT -5
They deleted your account? WOW! Guess they didn't like you pointing out the fact that those horses weren't the ones from the seizure. If it was an accident, then why are they so defensive? Most folks would have apologized and fixed the error... not banned - excuse me, deleted - the person and refused to change the info. I guess all that talk on their board about wanting rescues to work together is just so much hooey. They say false info about another rescue, refuse to correct it, then ban the president of that rescue when she informs them of their mistake and asks them to fix it. I would say that I don't believe it, but it is classic karanoid CBER. Since the almighty Madame president Shelly hasn't even bothered to email me to ask how to verify the information or call the county it tells me they have no interest in the truth..just jacking up the price $700 + from what he went thru the sale for...and using false advertising to do so. Thanks to the person that emailed Shelly's phone number for the deputy tomorrow, I'm sure the sherriff departments K9 unit has nothing better to do with her time than call CBER & fix there screw up.
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