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Post by emjay on Feb 10, 2009 16:08:49 GMT -5
Every now and then I browse her site.
Today I went on and read the story of Tessa the mule. How sad. It is a story that needed to be told and justice needs to be served for Tessa. The pics are sad. It should make all think twice and research their trainers before sending a horse. Hopefully something valueable will be learned from Tessa and other horses can be spared the same fate
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Post by pnp4kidz on Feb 10, 2009 16:46:42 GMT -5
Oh, the 'trainer' would not have made it to court if that had been MY mule...
sorry to say, but that was worse than criminal...
it hits on the depths of animal torture
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Post by wildwoman on Feb 10, 2009 17:18:56 GMT -5
saw that and then the other post-the "rescuer" that is breeding and selling babies from this poor mare with THE MOST AWFUL back I have EVER SEEN E...... V.... E.... R....
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Post by icehorse on Feb 10, 2009 17:56:10 GMT -5
that mule story has to be one of the saddest I have ever read. all that time spent to breed for the perfect mule...  kinda hit home for me. When I bred for our perfect little blue dun Icelandic filly, well, I'm just so happy she went to the best home that appreciates her so much. I still get pictures and updates and she looks amazing. I can't imagine how I'd feel if all that time, love and work put into such a special horse, went the way this one did. |
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Post by quatzie on Feb 10, 2009 18:34:39 GMT -5
If I had been the owner of Tessa, I would have ####!!!!!! the #### out of him. Then hung him up to dry ..... for the dogs to eat him....
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Post by countrygirl on Feb 11, 2009 0:22:35 GMT -5
What a horribly sad story. I hope they lock that guy up and throw away the key.
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Post by penny/pals on Feb 11, 2009 13:11:02 GMT -5
What a sicko I wonder if she called any of the people who had their animals trained by him before. How terrible. If I couldn't get the police or AC to take action I would sue him myself.
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Post by highcountry on Feb 11, 2009 14:13:18 GMT -5
I think the story ephasizes why you should not send your animal off to training and not check in frequently. I hear stories of horses that go to training but never get handled, in this case, never fed then abused.
We all know trainers like this are the exception but.....it is still the owners responsibility to check on their animal. I'm not trying to blame this owner. I just wish they had lived closer to go see their baby in training within two weeks. I'm sure there would have been a different outcome.
My condolences to these owners and hope the trainer gets the exact same treatment he gave Tessa.
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Post by cutiepiepmu on Feb 11, 2009 16:01:32 GMT -5
I can say - that in my line of work I have seen alot of things.... and while trainers that take it to this extreme may not be as common, the day to day things that fly under the raidar that I ahve seen, that the owners may never know about - is alot more common that you can imagine This is the biggest reason I have issues sending my horse to ANY trainer - not just ones i can see my horse each day. Don't get me wrong - there are some wonderful h orse people and horse trainers that use methods that are kind, humane and work well - but, IMO for each wonderful trainer - there are 4-5 ones that are not good...... Take careful consideration where you send your horse - make sure you are over the top when digging up info and deciding where your kid will go. Sara |
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Post by icehorse on Feb 11, 2009 17:08:39 GMT -5
It's true, I may never send a horse out for training after what happened to my stallion over the summer-and in only 6 weeks...I cried for 3 days.
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Post by barbpurple on Feb 11, 2009 22:04:34 GMT -5
well i went looking and can not find the article that you all are talking about,, can someone repost the article or at least the link? thanks barb
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Post by tireddog on Feb 11, 2009 22:12:09 GMT -5
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Post by barbpurple on Feb 11, 2009 22:32:09 GMT -5
whoa OMG i just can't believe i read that and still nothing has been done to the trainers...hope that tessa gets the dues that she had coming to her...may she rest in peace eating all the green grass that she can grab...tearing up here got to go.............
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Post by wendyp on Feb 12, 2009 0:45:54 GMT -5
I read this story a week or two ago.........Now I'm getting paranoid............
I'm sending my PerchX mare to a 'local' trainer in April - she's about 35 miles away.......so I can check on her any time I want. I sent Doodle to a trainer in So. Oregon for 30 days (about 4 hours away - so did not get to check on him) and he came back trained, but very thin. So I chose a trainer closer to home for Jessi. She's going to Kitty Lauman for 60-90 days.......Kitty trained Ranger for the first Mustang Makeover.
I hope it's the right decision...........
WendyP/Bend, OR
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Post by wildwoman on Feb 12, 2009 10:27:23 GMT -5
How many references do you guys regurlarly call and ask questions of? How reliable are the references-not just 'trainer X's' cousin or something? This whole thing is scary.
Wendy-35 miles away sounds safe enough if your schedule allows frequent visits. How thin is 'very thin?' I am sure there are stressors that effect the horse-different barn/schedule/work/feed etc-I am assuming one would take their own feed to not have changes with diet?
Sorry I have a bunch of stupid questions-I have never sent a horse away to a trainer-
BUT>>>>
At the public forum where folks around here got together to discuss the whole horse care issue-county involvment etc-one VERY VOCAL person who was extremely ANTI any sort of 'licensing' of horses and also claimed to be a NH trainer (and QH breeder) was also PRO SLAUGHTER
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Post by wendyp on Feb 13, 2009 0:27:40 GMT -5
I have two friends that had their horses with Kitty for 6-7 months and were very pleased with the horses care and training. Kitty has been around here for years (I know she was raised in Prineville, and her dad (or grandfather?) is a very well respected horse trainer........he was one of the first 'natural horsemen' I had heard of in this area. Kitty is well respected, but I personally have not watched her work with a horse, so I will do that before I haul my girl over there.
As far as Doodle coming back 'very thin' - he left here on the plump side, and within 30 days his back was hollowed out. Now, he was getting more exercise than he had in at least a year, and I'm sure he was stressed, but I also think the saddle didn't fit.
That's my biggest concern with taking my mare to Kitty - I would really like her to use my saddle, that I know fits, that is flared in the front to give room for the shoulders to move. I'm going to ask her to, but I'm pretty sure she will decline. That part just doesn't make sense to me - the saddle is supposed to fit the horse first, the rider is secondary. But most people buy a saddle that fits 'them' and if they worry about the horse at all, it's only after problems show up. I just don't get that.
WendyP/Bend, OR
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Post by wildwoman on Feb 13, 2009 10:35:51 GMT -5
Yeah-the saddle not fitting correctly would have MAJOR negative impact-physically and mentally on the horse. OMG-times being what they are-if she wants the work-YOU are the client-I would make that non-negotiable.
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Post by icehorse on Feb 13, 2009 20:23:37 GMT -5
Also, if the horse is in a stall, have your name and phone number posted to it. Had people known who to call, I could have gotten my stallion outta there faster, and he never would have had to endure the torture this lady put him through.
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Post by gratefulknits on Feb 13, 2009 21:24:33 GMT -5
Icey, I'm really sorry to hear that your boy had a bad experience. I guessed I missed hearing about it. Has he recovered?
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Post by icehorse on Feb 13, 2009 22:25:36 GMT -5
I was too upset to talk about it. I sent him to a place where i used to ride, nice facility, barns, jumping arena, covered arena. Well he was there for six weeks and I had specific instructions to Not keep him in a stall and strict feed requirements...well, he was in a stall when I checked on him the first week...then I moved away-5 hours. This trainer was leasing him to buy. She told me how much she Looved him and she would purchase him after the 3 month lease. Well I found out that she turned him out with her mule and other horses and they beat him up day after day. He came home with countless kick wounds and bite marks. My poor baby that I wanted before he was even born. The one I raised to be gentle enough for my 3 yr old daughter. Then I heard that she put him in a very tiny panel pen next to some bad hay she had been feeding. Well he got very sick. The details are fuzzy- I was so beyond upset when my mother in law called to say you better get your stallion home right away. So I hired Sharon to bring him to me immediately. He had a 104 fever and was just lethargic, covered in wounds, his neck was swollen and leaning to the side, his gorgeous flaxen mane rubbed out, his whole body was like jello, he did not, I mean he did not look like the same gorgeous show pony I left there 6 weeks ago(see the pic on the front page of my website)...He was so happy to be home...had to have the vet out, I had to take his temp 2x day and give all sorts of medications...I cried and couldnt sleep, literally for days after this ordeal. I will never forgive that woman. My sweet boy now lives in Oklahoma with 4 gorgeous icey mares...I decided to get out of breeding this year. He did fully recover by the way. Just goes to show a lot of bad can happen in a short amount of time.
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Post by spicy-racer on Feb 13, 2009 23:39:05 GMT -5
How can WE help PROSECUTE this guy to the full extent of the law? Is that not what we are here for? Let's raise the funds, get together and kick this !@##$$@##$$ in the butt! It may help stop future abusers... what do ya say?
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Post by lorsadoon on Feb 14, 2009 9:38:42 GMT -5
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Post by kidznhorses on Feb 14, 2009 11:32:57 GMT -5
I had no idea that happened, Icey. I'm so sorry. I remember that boy and the high hopes you had for him. Just can't believe how awful people are sometimes. So glad he has a wonderful home now.
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kinda hit home for me. When I bred for our perfect little blue dun Icelandic filly, well, I'm just so happy she went to the best home that appreciates her so much. I still get pictures and updates and she looks amazing. I can't imagine how I'd feel if all that time, love and work put into such a special horse, went the way this one did.
