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Post by lorsadoon on Oct 1, 2009 16:30:31 GMT -5
Sorry everyone. I am posting a PM I recieved from waredhead. I do not know who this dipstick is, but you can tell from letter she sent me, she has no class.
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- so you re dumb. i told tash i would not bring up sos name on her site but if it was brought up i had every right to say what i felt about them..so guess you screwed the pooch on that one opening your big mouth, but from my understanding it's not the first time you screwed an animal and i do mean that literally...also when you wanna whine and cry and throw those 2 horses names around that were shot at cber, well your good friends failed to tell you that they were at a party the nite before and they were told that was gonna happen and noone had the common courtesy to volunteer their homes for them so sam is not the only one for you to raise hell with about them but all the people that made the choice not to help them is just as guilty as if they had pulled the trigger..and dear mrs rodeo queen shawna knew sam was taking the horse back to the feedlot for slaughter after it almost killed its new owner and she never stepped up and offered to find it a home or take it and train it either..so all you do is trade one name(cber) for another (SOS) with the same basic concept here dear lorsa...so dont get on your high horse with me about how great sos is...they are a piece of sh*t and shawna is nothing but a fuked up backyard QH breeder that pawns her and her dads old horses off on people trying to adopt those poor feedlot horses that arent even feedlot horses bound for slaughter...go save a horse and stop supporting frigging horsetraders named dave and shawna...oh and you can call wash state dept of agriculture and talk to the guy who will tell you he has found out exactly that..dave herriman does not ship to slaughter and has not in many many years..and that he found out shawna is related to him and also why does shawna not let anyone go with her to dave's lot except her daughter and her kids boyfriend?? cause then you would see its just some dumbasses back frigging yard that they are calling a feedlot for slaughter horses...davenport sales barn also says dave never pays over 60.00 for a horse and as low as 5.00 so tell me again how shawna doesnt get a kickback on a 450.00 horse plus 300.00 qt whether they need it or not?? please do explain that to me cause all i see is a bunch of friggin thieves playing on peoples sympathy and kind hearts...
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Post by lorsadoon on Oct 1, 2009 16:41:06 GMT -5
And in reading this back, is she actually insinuating I has sex with an animal. If so, I think I am going to be really pissed off.
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Post by michellep on Oct 1, 2009 16:50:49 GMT -5
Wow, such bickering.....Im not privy to what this person is talking about, but maybe they should just stay to themselves instead of stirring up trouble.
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Post by rodeo51 on Oct 1, 2009 17:18:20 GMT -5
And in reading this back, is she actually insinuating I has sex with an animal. If so, I think I am going to be really pissed off. You should be pissed off......that is just plain crazy and totally uncalled for. Iam absolutely amazed she would even say anything like that. Jimi...I have watched you do some nasty things, but this one takes the cake!
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Post by paintedlady on Oct 1, 2009 17:43:17 GMT -5
And in reading this back, is she actually insinuating I has sex with an animal. If so, I think I am going to be really pissed off. Lors ***Shame on you*** ;D I think that she hasnt been going to see her shrink lately. Wack job for sure. I snorted my soda when I read that ( LOL) Susan
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Post by TashGaia on Oct 1, 2009 17:50:44 GMT -5
OMG! Really beyond speechless at some of the allegations there...
But as far as folks being at a party the night before Lavender and Meadow were put down... bullshit. And about Shawna knowing that the horse that was taken back to the lot had hurt someone? Well, Maple didn't have an owner and never did anything wrong. If she is talking about Sonya who Sam also took back, that was years and years before any of us even knew about CBER. Whoever is feeding Jimmie her information obviously doesn't have a clue... or else she is actually trying to make Jimmie look bad.
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Post by lorsadoon on Oct 1, 2009 18:05:40 GMT -5
OK guys, I just have to go over this one more time to clarify. My response, not that waredhead needs one, is in blue.
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- so you re dumb. (Am I now, at least I can spell.) i told tash i would not bring up sos name on her site but if it was brought up i had every right to say what i felt about them..so guess you screwed the pooch on that one opening your big mouth, but from my understanding it's not the first time you screwed an animal and i do mean that literally (I really would like to know whom you get your information from regarding me screwing the "pooch" or any other animal for that matter. So would this be slander, libel or just a dumb ass woman shooting off her mouth?) ...also when you wanna whine and cry and throw those 2 horses names around that were shot at cber, well your good friends failed to tell you that they were at a party the nite before and they were told that was gonna happen and noone had the common courtesy to volunteer their homes for them so sam is not the only one for you to raise hell with about them but all the people that made the choice not to help them is just as guilty as if they had pulled the trigger. (Good God, your run on sentences make my head want to explode. But I want to tell you this. I do not care how many people knew Lavender and Meadow were going to be killed or sent back to slaughter. I should of known. I HELPED PAY FOR THEM TO LEAVE THE LOT. OUT OF COURTESY, THE PEOPLE WHO BAILED HER OUT SHOULD OF BEEN NOTIFIED. I CARED ABOUT THOSE TWO MARES, AND YOU DO NOT KNOW A FRIGGING THING ABOUT THE WHOLE SITUATION. SO STFU ABOUT THEM!) .and dear mrs rodeo queen shawna knew sam was taking the horse back to the feedlot for slaughter after it almost killed its new owner and she never stepped up and offered to find it a home or take it and train it either..so all you do is trade one name(cber) for another (SOS) with the same basic concept here dear lorsa...so dont get on your high horse with me about how great sos is...they are a piece of sh*t and shawna is nothing but a fuked up backyard QH breeder that pawns her and her dads old horses off on people trying to adopt those poor feedlot horses that arent even feedlot horses bound for slaughter...go save a horse (Again, you know nothing about what I have and have not done as far as helping and rescueing horses.) and stop supporting frigging horsetraders named dave and shawna...oh and you can call wash state dept of agriculture and talk to the guy who will tell you he has found out exactly that..dave herriman does not ship to slaughter and has not in many many years..and that he found out shawna is related to him and also why does shawna not let anyone go with her to dave's lot except her daughter and her kids boyfriend?? cause then you would see its just some dumbasses back frigging yard that they are calling a feedlot for slaughter horses...davenport sales barn also says dave never pays over 60.00 for a horse and as low as 5.00 so tell me again how shawna doesnt get a kickback on a 450.00 horse plus 300.00 qt whether they need it or not?? please do explain that to me cause all i see is a bunch of friggin thieves playing on peoples sympathy and kind hearts... (And I will not even say what I think about you and your circle of friends. I am sure this letter speaks for itself. Maybe even Joanne, Collette, and Diane will be embarrased by it.) I will not speak for Shawna, as I am sure she can do that for herself.
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Post by leosolis on Oct 1, 2009 18:36:49 GMT -5
GOOD GRIEF...Yes, collette, Joanne, Helen & Diane are in great company with her. soo.. I have no idea who is giving her information but I agree they are trying to make her look stupid, which I don't know that she really needed any help with anyway. As far as me being a backyard QH breeder, well she is entitled to her opinion. I have nothing to prove as Busy proved himself his last 2 years in the show ring. I can honestly say none of Busy colts or actually any of my horses have ever been rescued from a feedlot/backyard killbuyer what ever she is calling Dave these days. She can't. Both split Pants & Jazzy were once in her care, ..they look GREAT don't they... I think it pretty pathetic that Joanne feels the need to spend her time calling around Benton County trying to find out the details of my contract with them. WHAT FOR? the contract not for SOS, its something that I had before SOS was even in exsistence. I never said anywhere I wasn't paid by the county..I was, but you try feeding that many horses on your own while the county takes 3 months to cut a check. I actually had a deputy friend of mine call me & tell me I needed to file anti harassement papers againest Joanne if that tells you how many calls she is making..I am waiting on one more statement....wait for that knock on the door Joanne...its coming.
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Post by leosolis on Oct 1, 2009 18:38:14 GMT -5
Also wanted to add that Kelli's boyfriend has never been to the feedlot. Just an FYI... Oh and that I am not in any way shape or form related to Dave Herriman. I am as closely related to him as I am the president.
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Post by rodeo51 on Oct 1, 2009 18:38:44 GMT -5
Good job ! :-)
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Post by waredhead70 on Oct 1, 2009 19:03:44 GMT -5
wow shawna does speak..took alot to get you to come out..and those horses were not in my care when they were sent to auction as you well know shawna..and lorsa you should be use to run on sentences. shawna is the queen of them as she has so said in her daily online diary.actually noone has to call benton county you and they spoke to newspapers and it was printed for all to read how much they were paying you..and lorsa if you helped bail those 2 horses then you should have took responsibility of them, not leaving them sitting on a rescues property. how long were they on the rescues lot lorsa? i feel that way about alot of those young horses at sos..the people who helped bail them should help house them..thats why they are called rescues and not retirement homes..and i think the word you were looking for is "know" so so much for you can spell lorsa but it wasn't spelling ,i missed an apostrophe.
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Post by waredhead70 on Oct 1, 2009 19:13:55 GMT -5
and michellep i didnt post it ,i sent it to her in private and her and shawna could of answered in private but they didn't so maybe they need to answer in private and then you will not be bothered..
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Post by lorsadoon on Oct 1, 2009 19:22:48 GMT -5
wow shawna does speak..took alot to get you to come out..and those horses were not in my care when they were sent to auction as you well know shawna..and lorsa you should be use to run on sentences. shawna is the queen of them as she has so said in her daily online diary.actually noone has to call benton county you and they spoke to newspapers and it was printed for all to read how much they were paying you..and lorsa if you helped bail those 2 horses then you should have took responsibility of them, not leaving them sitting on a rescues property. how long were they on the rescues lot lorsa? i feel that way about alot of those young horses at sos..the people who helped bail them should help house them..thats why they are called rescues and not retirement homes..and i think the word you were looking for is "know" so so much for you can spell lorsa but it wasn't spelling ,i missed an apostrophe. Like I said, you do not know anything about Lavender and Meadow. Were you around then or are you relying on someone to feed you information? Get your facts straight before you spout off on things you do not have a clue about. And I would of taken them if I had known. But, the superpower at CBER decided to take it upon herself to be the judge, jury and executioner. One more thing. Who told you the outrageous lie that I had been screwing animals. Are you just plain stupid or are you just a mean hateful woman. One other thing. How many horses have you sent to the canners? Cause I think you are just trying to cover your guilty ass about something.
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Post by leosolis on Oct 1, 2009 19:24:39 GMT -5
wow shawna does speak..took alot to get you to come out..and those horses were not in my care when they were sent to auction as you well know shawna..and lorsa you should be use to run on sentences. shawna is the queen of them as she has so said in her daily online diary.actually noone has to call benton county you and they spoke to newspapers and it was printed for all to read how much they were paying you..and lorsa if you helped bail those 2 horses then you should have took responsibility of them, not leaving them sitting on a rescues property. how long were they on the rescues lot lorsa? i feel that way about alot of those young horses at sos..the people who helped bail them should help house them..thats why they are called rescues and not retirement homes..and i think the word you were looking for is "know" so so much for you can spell lorsa but it wasn't spelling ,i missed an apostrophe. Jimi, Seriously do you have queen issues? you often refer back to when I was a rodeo queen, yet that isn't something that many people on this board really knew about me, since I don't discuss it. Now I am also the run on sentence queen...I am pretty sure I am only a lowly princess to you in that department. No those horses were in your care, you said they were on a care lease..then I hear you sold them...the story is ever changing..except for one fact...you never filed a police report. Which can be done, just no charges pressed.
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Post by waredhead70 on Oct 1, 2009 19:54:27 GMT -5
LOL lorsa i have never sent a horse to a canner but i have kept 13 from going there...and it is a civil matter shawna and if dave could find wayne which noone seems to know where he went..and where is scarlette at shawna? you act like sos has never picked a bad adopter before when your own blog says it..why do you not go on the other board and answer everyones questions ? by the way you statistic numbers are a lil off you might wanna go back and check those numbers out...
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Post by TashGaia on Oct 1, 2009 20:35:24 GMT -5
I built the statistics page, not Shawna, and since it is brought up here, I would like to point out the line at the very top of the page:
Please note that these are automatically generated statistics from our database and may not be 100% accurate. These statistics are presented in order to give the viewer a general idea, not as an official representation.
The whole statistics page is dynamically driven off of the database, and frankly some of the things on the page were not previously being tracked... therefore, it is a matter of going back through the records and filling in the blanks. The database can only report back on what is in it and since not all the information has been entered yet, it is not 100% yet... which is why I put the statement at the top letting folks know that.
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Post by horseylove on Oct 1, 2009 21:46:57 GMT -5
GOOD GRIEF...Yes, collette, Joanne, Helen & Diane are in great company with her. soo.. I have no idea who is giving her information but I agree they are trying to make her look stupid, which I don't know that she really needed any help with anyway. As far as me being a backyard QH breeder, well she is entitled to her opinion. I have nothing to prove as Busy proved himself his last 2 years in the show ring. I can honestly say none of Busy colts or actually any of my horses have ever been rescued from a feedlot/backyard killbuyer what ever she is calling Dave these days. She can't. Both split Pants & Jazzy were once in her care, ..they look GREAT don't they... I think it pretty pathetic that Joanne feels the need to spend her time calling around Benton County trying to find out the details of my contract with them. WHAT FOR? the contract not for SOS, its something that I had before SOS was even in exsistence. I never said anywhere I wasn't paid by the county..I was, but you try feeding that many horses on your own while the county takes 3 months to cut a check. I actually had a deputy friend of mine call me & tell me I needed to file anti harassement papers againest Joanne if that tells you how many calls she is making..I am waiting on one more statement....wait for that knock on the door Joanne...its coming. I am pretty sure you can't file a harrasment suit against someone for making two phone calls about something that is public information. The reason I made the phone calls was because I was given info that I wanted to check out to make sure it was true before saying anything. I don't like to post heresay. I also know it was not about sos but it did involve sos as you were posting on the sos forum about not recieving any money and that you were paying for these horses care out of your pocket. Now you failed to mention that the county would be paying you at all and that is a lie of omission IMO. I also know a group of horses came in to your place from Oregon that were in mandatory quarantine per the state veterinarian. When the brand inspector came out to check on those horses 4 days later they were scattered all over the state. That made me wonder of course if that group was the 20 yearlings and why you violated the mandatory qt. I also wondered of course if the yearlings even came from Dave at all. Now I don't have all the answers to my questions yet and may never have them. What I have found is that you Shawna lie alot and eventually you are not going to be able to keep all your stories straight. I am not intimidated by your threats and won't scare off so easily. I would not care that you were saving horses this way if you would just be honest about it but you are not. Someone is hacking into my computer and using my admin account on the board I started to send you member lists and hidden emails. I wonder why that would be happening? Unless you are worried that to much truth is getting out.
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Post by leosolis on Oct 1, 2009 22:59:15 GMT -5
GOOD GRIEF...Yes, collette, Joanne, Helen & Diane are in great company with her. soo.. I have no idea who is giving her information but I agree they are trying to make her look stupid, which I don't know that she really needed any help with anyway. As far as me being a backyard QH breeder, well she is entitled to her opinion. I have nothing to prove as Busy proved himself his last 2 years in the show ring. I can honestly say none of Busy colts or actually any of my horses have ever been rescued from a feedlot/backyard killbuyer what ever she is calling Dave these days. She can't. Both split Pants & Jazzy were once in her care, ..they look GREAT don't they... I think it pretty pathetic that Joanne feels the need to spend her time calling around Benton County trying to find out the details of my contract with them. WHAT FOR? the contract not for SOS, its something that I had before SOS was even in exsistence. I never said anywhere I wasn't paid by the county..I was, but you try feeding that many horses on your own while the county takes 3 months to cut a check. I actually had a deputy friend of mine call me & tell me I needed to file anti harassement papers againest Joanne if that tells you how many calls she is making..I am waiting on one more statement....wait for that knock on the door Joanne...its coming. I am pretty sure you can't file a harrasment suit against someone for making two phone calls about something that is public information. The reason I made the phone calls was because I was given info that I wanted to check out to make sure it was true before saying anything. I don't like to post heresay. I also know it was not about sos but it did involve sos as you were posting on the sos forum about not recieving any money and that you were paying for these horses care out of your pocket. Now you failed to mention that the county would be paying you at all and that is a lie of omission IMO. I also know a group of horses came in to your place from Oregon that were in mandatory quarantine per the state veterinarian. When the brand inspector came out to check on those horses 4 days later they were scattered all over the state. That made me wonder of course if that group was the 20 yearlings and why you violated the mandatory qt. I also wondered of course if the yearlings even came from Dave at all. Now I don't have all the answers to my questions yet and may never have them. What I have found is that you Shawna lie alot and eventually you are not going to be able to keep all your stories straight. I am not intimidated by your threats and won't scare off so easily. I would not care that you were saving horses this way if you would just be honest about it but you are not. Someone is hacking into my computer and using my admin account on the board I started to send you member lists and hidden emails. I wonder why that would be happening? Unless you are worried that to much truth is getting out. My answers are in bold... I am pretty sure you can't file a harrasment suit against someone for making two phone calls about something that is public information. It has gone alot further than 2 phone calls. You know that & just because I may of only mentioned the phone calls doesn't mean there isn't more. I am filing an anti harassment order on my behalf & for SOSThe reason I made the phone calls was because I was given info that I wanted to check out to make sure it was true before saying anything. I don't like to post heresay. Yet you do it in right below about QT on some oregon horses....not even remotely correct.I also know it was not about sos but it did involve sos as you were posting on the sos forum about not recieving any money and that you were paying for these horses care out of your pocket. Now you failed to mention that the county would be paying you at all and that is a lie of omission IMO. I failed to mention or you failed to listen? It was never as secret I was under contract. Nor the terms of the contract. What was surprising was the number of animals all at once & with hay prices at a all time high, suddenly having 23 horses put on my feedbill without getting a check back for 2 months was a little difficult. I also didn't keep all the horses here, If I remember correctly I had 9 of them here and had to sub contract with 2 others to keep the others, so I was not only paying out of pocket at the time for hay, but also was paying out of pocket for the other horses being cared for at different facilities. If the yearlings & so many sponsor horses hadn't been here, with me feeding a good majority out of pocket, I would of had the room for all the county horses & actually for once in my life made some money. I also know a group of horses came in to your place from Oregon that were in mandatory quarantine per the state veterinarian. When the brand inspector came out to check on those horses 4 days later they were scattered all over the state. really?? The only horses ever to be on a STATE HOLD were the ones that were seized & they were taken to the other facilities directly from the seized property, I hauled them there. So much for you not posting hearsay.That made me wonder of course if that group was the 20 yearlings and why you violated the mandatory qt. If we go on your theory that I am doing all this for money, why on earth would I not want to collect $300 per month for 20 yearlings? gosh puts a big hole in your reasoning. I also wondered of course if the yearlings even came from Dave at all. Actually, Dave hauled them to my place, but they never set foot at the feedlot..remember that is part of the reason NO QT WAS NEEDEDNow I don't have all the answers to my questions yet and may never have them. Well so far your answers are not accurateWhat I have found is that you Shawna lie alot and eventually you are not going to be able to keep all your stories straight. Actually I don't lie alot, that is why I am as bitchy as I am...I have nothing to hide, so I don't worry about people like you sniffing around. When I make a mistake I own it, I don't usually hide or lie about it. I am not intimidated by your threats and won't scare off so easily. what threats? I have never threatned you. You have on the other hand have done alot to harm SOS and considering how many others things are completely incorrect in this post alone, I would be a little worried about believing Dave can't ship. Where exactly to you think horses that we don't save go? Dave very much ships, yes he piggy backs with 3 other killbuyers and doesn't usually have a semi load himself, but he absolutely ships & to post otherwise is irresponsible. I would not care that you were saving horses this way if you would just be honest about it but you are not. completely lost here, SOS keeps most horses for well over 30 days, with little to no support, and more often than not gives the horse on a gift contract absolutely free to the adopter. Someone is hacking into my computer and using my admin account on the board I started to send you member lists and hidden emails. I wonder why that would be happening? Unless you are worried that to much truth is getting out. What in the hell are you talking about? You should contact proboards, they can check every IP addy that has logged in as admin & tell you exactly who it is. I suspect you were baited & fell for it hook, line & sinker. But just in case get ahold of proboards I have done nothing to your site or admin account
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Post by horseylove on Oct 2, 2009 0:31:38 GMT -5
It has gone alot further than 2 phone calls. You know that & just because I may of only mentioned the phone calls doesn't mean there isn't more. I am filing an anti harassment order on my behalf & for SOS
Really? Is it the fact that I started a forum of my own so the truth is coming out that is harrassing? I have not called you or emailed you and the only calls I have made asking questions were to places about public information so I dont' see that as harrassing. I have posted questions and my opinion on the forum but I am pretty sure that is free speech.
It may not have been a secrest that you were under contract but the fact is still that you made it out to look like you were care for ALL the horses on your own dime with no chance for compensation. BTW benton county was not at all happy about the exhorbitant board bill they received for you.
The comment about the group of horses coming from Oregon was straight from a government agency who said that outright violated the mandatory qt orders.
Shawna you also know exaclty what I am talking about with the member lists being copied and sent to you.
Granted you are good at manipulating and deceiving people but not everyone will believe everthing you say.
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Post by horseylove on Oct 2, 2009 1:18:49 GMT -5
One more thing the investigation your under right now with washington state departement of agriculture had nothing to do with me. That was already happening and I just happened to call the right person and found out about it. You can try to blame that on me but it was in the works long before I even called with questions.
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Post by leosolis on Oct 2, 2009 1:46:47 GMT -5
One more thing the investigation your under right now with washington state departement of agriculture had nothing to do with me. That was already happening and I just happened to call the right person and found out about it. You can try to blame that on me but it was in the works long before I even called with questions. Joanne...since it sounds like you now Dave's number at the Ag dept...I suggest you call him again. You will find that those yearlings were NEVER under any state hold or QT. You contridict yourself so much its hard to keep up.. You just happened to be calling the Washington State dept. of AG??? Really what would your purpose of been? Just happened? Where is your documentation? Lets see something showing that I on purposely disregarded a state issued QT on those yearlings. Also Benton county is who set the terms of our contract..Nobody made them sign it, they contacted me, I didn't beg for there business. Alot of research was done & believe it or not I was the lowest bid they got to keep those horses. You truly have no idea what your talking about..and considering that I was called & told I should file an anti harassement order BY THE PEOPLE YOU called, I am guessing there not nearly as unhappy with me as you claim. How on earth would I even know that you called unless they immediatly told me? I think you should be posting facts..not 1/2 truths...get some paperwork regarding my NOT following a state mandated QT on those yearlings...but good luck because your competely off base & wrong. Also your correct according to the way the law reads anyone selling, giving away or simply rehoming horses within a year will need one. Good thing we kept a file on all the horses you have taken & gotten rid of...although common sense would say your aren't really what the law was written for, it still is so broad it includes you...and to not make you get the same thing I am, well that would be discrimination Joanne..and we wouldn't want that to happen right... Btw...you said you were threatned? really where? it wasn't by me..although I was threatned by two people in your little group. SOS has nothing to hide, nobody is hacking into your little world of a board..don't flatter yourself. Its really not that exciting & most people read it once & delete themselves. You want answers, yet people who could potentially provide you answers you ban...what was your reasoning for banning Rodeo51??? She might be able to shed some actual truth on the crap your posting? BTW....I saw what you wrote about Yoda....your are such a liar. I point blank told you she HAS NAVICULAR...its manageable & we have xrays... I know that Beth can back that up, because she almost took her & I told her the same thing I told you.
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Post by waredhead70 on Oct 2, 2009 2:14:35 GMT -5
she can ban whomever she wants just like you do on a regular basis shawna..and dave at the dept of ag is the one that said all the horses were supposed to be on your property when he came out there last year..he is also the one that said he would love to see the proof that those yearlings came from a vet or research facility, because they do not put them back in to the public without healt certs and paperwork..but then again i believe some people on abr questioned you on that also..he also said you need a livestock license because you are basically acting as a horse trader ..so why do you not buy at the auction and save 3- 4 hundred per horse? at 5.00 - 60.00 a piece you could save alot of horses instead of supporting a kill buyer as you refer to him as? and why on here do you link yourself with cber when all u guys do is talk so bad about them??
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Post by leosolis on Oct 2, 2009 2:55:36 GMT -5
she can ban whomever she wants just like you do on a regular basis shawna..and dave at the dept of ag is the one that said all the horses were supposed to be on your property when he came out there last year..he is also the one that said he would love to see the proof that those yearlings came from a vet or research facility, because they do not put them back in to the public without healt certs and paperwork..but then again i believe some people on abr questioned you on that also..he also said you need a livestock license because you are basically acting as a horse trader ..so why do you not buy at the auction and save 3- 4 hundred per horse? at 5.00 - 60.00 a piece you could save alot of horses instead of supporting a kill buyer as you refer to him as? and why on here do you link yourself with cber when all u guys do is talk so bad about them?? Actually Jimi...all rescues will need to have a livestock dealers license in 2010, or really anyone "dealing" in horses. That actually will include you if you are turned in. I chose to rescue from a place where the horses have no other hope. You can go to the auction get them before they do. I hope a hundred people join you...until slaughter is no longer a threat for our horses here in the US I CHOOSE to give the horses that have no other hope, HOPE. Hence the name...Saving Our Slaughterbound. Well like I stated, the information you are posting about the yearlings being on a state QT hold is inaccurate, so get something to prove me wrong & post it. I havn't talked about CBER in quite sometime. You keep bringing them up like you could possibly know any of the history. The little group that is filling you full of information doesn't even know all the history. Becareful who you listen to, because honestly right now your listening to the wrong folks. You want some history talk to Tash, she knows far more & can provide proof of what she says.
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Post by leosolis on Oct 2, 2009 2:59:39 GMT -5
Also Jimi your part of a very elite group....SOS has only 4 banned members & your actually 2 of them.
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Post by horseylove on Oct 2, 2009 8:00:30 GMT -5
My comments in boldJoanne...since it sounds like you now Dave's number at the Ag dept...I suggest you call him again. You will find that those yearlings were NEVER under any state hold or QT. I did not say it was the yearlings but a group of horses out of Oregon. I did say I wondered if it was the yearlings. You contridict yourself so much its hard to keep up.. You just happened to be calling the Washington State dept. of AG??? Really what would your purpose of been? Just happened? What I said was that I happened to call the right person. I made the call to the wsda to ask about Daves license and I found out alot more than that.
Where is your documentation? Lets see something showing that I on purposely disregarded a state issued QT on those yearlings. Again I did not state it was the yearlings just that I wondered if it were. Big difference there.Also Benton county is who set the terms of our contract..Nobody made them sign it, they contacted me, I didn't beg for there business. Alot of research was done & believe it or not I was the lowest bid they got to keep those horses. You truly have no idea what your talking about..and considering that I was called & told I should file an anti harassement order BY THE PEOPLE YOU called, I am guessing there not nearly as unhappy with me as you claim. How on earth would I even know that you called unless they immediatly told me? I imagine you have friends that told you I called te humane society. Benton county is also who told me they were not happy with the board bill. They also told me they no longer do horse seizures because boarding the horses is to expensive.I think you should be posting facts..not 1/2 truths...get some paperwork regarding my NOT following a state mandated QT on those yearlings...but good luck because your competely off base & wrong. JAgain I did not state as a fact it was the yearlings it was just me wondering. Also your correct according to the way the law reads anyone selling, giving away or simply rehoming horses within a year will need one. Good thing we kept a file on all the horses you have taken & gotten rid of... Hmm that would be all of one from sos that was rehomed. There are two more that I took in and then found homes for. One big tb gelding that was being starved and eventually found a new home with an old owner who had been lookig for him. although common sense would say your aren't really what the law was written for, it still is so broad it includes you...and to not make you get the same thing I am, well that would be discrimination Joanne..and we wouldn't want that to happen right... Btw...you said you were threatned? really where? You seemed to be threatening me with harrasment papers. it wasn't by me..although I was threatned by two people in your little group. SOS has nothing to hide, nobody is hacking into your little world of a board..don't flatter yourself. See now that is where you are wrong. Someone hacked into my computer and put something on there that keeps track of key strokes so all my passwords were compromised which makes it really easy for that person to get onto the forum as admin and copy people's private information. Its really not that exciting & most people read it once & delete themselves. You want answers, yet people who could potentially provide you answers you ban...what was your reasoning for banning Rodeo51??? I have not banned Rodea and as far as I know she is still on the board. At least se was last night. Tash is also on there and I haven't banned her either. She might be able to shed some actual truth on the crap your posting? BTW....I saw what you wrote about Yoda....your are such a liar. I point blank told you she HAS NAVICULAR...its manageable & we have xrays... [/b]It may be manageable and really it doesn't matter what you told Beth. You told me you had x-rays done and it was not navicular. You said she had been with your dad and he had used different farriers to many times and her feet were trimmed to short and that she needed special shoes. Why would I take a horse with navicular for my kid that just lost a horse that was lame? Not to mention the fact Yoda was covered in lice when I got her and you blamed it on my chickens that were not even around the horses. I know that Beth can back that up, because she almost took her & I told her the same thing I told you.
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Post by leosolis on Oct 2, 2009 14:02:33 GMT -5
Joanne me filing the anti harassment papers are not a threat. They are a simple fact. You are outright lying regarding Yoda. Yoda is black, she came out of a pasture with other horses in it, that NONE OF THEM HAD LICE..in fact Lice only showed up after being at YOUR house for some time. What you don't know is every horse is powered when they get here, Ladybug was as soon as you left. I don't want lice or any other crap near my horses, so I do the best I can to protect them. You said Yoda was going nuts rubbing her skin & destroying things...funny...if she had lice when she left my place why didn't she have any marks from rubbing?? hmmm...well because you put Ladybugs blanket on her then drove home to your lice infested chickens. Remember last year when Lola got lice from your chickens? I seem to remember a post about it...I will have to find it and make sure it was Lola.
I honestly think your delusional. Why would anyone want your passwords? Are you accusing someone in particular?
umm..Joanne....SOS takes in horses and gives them away to good homes...sounds just like what you posted you are doing. Thank you for that post, I had forgotten about the TB horse.
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Post by leosolis on Oct 2, 2009 14:03:23 GMT -5
My comments in boldJoanne...since it sounds like you now Dave's number at the Ag dept...I suggest you call him again. You will find that those yearlings were NEVER under any state hold or QT. I did not say it was the yearlings but a group of horses out of Oregon. I did say I wondered if it was the yearlings. You contridict yourself so much its hard to keep up.. You just happened to be calling the Washington State dept. of AG??? Really what would your purpose of been? Just happened? What I said was that I happened to call the right person. I made the call to the wsda to ask about Daves license and I found out alot more than that.
Where is your documentation? Lets see something showing that I on purposely disregarded a state issued QT on those yearlings. Again I did not state it was the yearlings just that I wondered if it were. Big difference there.Also Benton county is who set the terms of our contract..Nobody made them sign it, they contacted me, I didn't beg for there business. Alot of research was done & believe it or not I was the lowest bid they got to keep those horses. You truly have no idea what your talking about..and considering that I was called & told I should file an anti harassement order BY THE PEOPLE YOU called, I am guessing there not nearly as unhappy with me as you claim. How on earth would I even know that you called unless they immediatly told me? I imagine you have friends that told you I called te humane society. Benton county is also who told me they were not happy with the board bill. They also told me they no longer do horse seizures because boarding the horses is to expensive.I think you should be posting facts..not 1/2 truths...get some paperwork regarding my NOT following a state mandated QT on those yearlings...but good luck because your competely off base & wrong. JAgain I did not state as a fact it was the yearlings it was just me wondering. Also your correct according to the way the law reads anyone selling, giving away or simply rehoming horses within a year will need one. Good thing we kept a file on all the horses you have taken & gotten rid of... Hmm that would be all of one from sos that was rehomed. There are two more that I took in and then found homes for. One big tb gelding that was being starved and eventually found a new home with an old owner who had been lookig for him. although common sense would say your aren't really what the law was written for, it still is so broad it includes you...and to not make you get the same thing I am, well that would be discrimination Joanne..and we wouldn't want that to happen right... Btw...you said you were threatned? really where? You seemed to be threatening me with harrasment papers. it wasn't by me..although I was threatned by two people in your little group. SOS has nothing to hide, nobody is hacking into your little world of a board..don't flatter yourself. See now that is where you are wrong. Someone hacked into my computer and put something on there that keeps track of key strokes so all my passwords were compromised which makes it really easy for that person to get onto the forum as admin and copy people's private information. Its really not that exciting & most people read it once & delete themselves. You want answers, yet people who could potentially provide you answers you ban...what was your reasoning for banning Rodeo51??? I have not banned Rodea and as far as I know she is still on the board. At least se was last night. Tash is also on there and I haven't banned her either. She might be able to shed some actual truth on the crap your posting? BTW....I saw what you wrote about Yoda....your are such a liar. I point blank told you she HAS NAVICULAR...its manageable & we have xrays... [/b]It may be manageable and really it doesn't matter what you told Beth. You told me you had x-rays done and it was not navicular. You said she had been with your dad and he had used different farriers to many times and her feet were trimmed to short and that she needed special shoes. Why would I take a horse with navicular for my kid that just lost a horse that was lame? Not to mention the fact Yoda was covered in lice when I got her and you blamed it on my chickens that were not even around the horses. I know that Beth can back that up, because she almost took her & I told her the same thing I told you. sorry folks...quoting so the delete queen can't remove where she posted about the other horse.
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Post by horseylove on Oct 2, 2009 15:19:39 GMT -5
Joanne me filing the anti harassment papers are not a threat. They are a simple fact. You are outright lying regarding Yoda. Yoda is black, she came out of a pasture with other horses in it, that NONE OF THEM HAD LICE..in fact Lice only showed up after being at YOUR house for some time. What you don't know is every horse is powered when they get here, Ladybug was as soon as you left. I don't want lice or any other crap near my horses, so I do the best I can to protect them. You said Yoda was going nuts rubbing her skin & destroying things...funny...if she had lice when she left my place why didn't she have any marks from rubbing?? hmmm...well because you put Ladybugs blanket on her then drove home to your lice infested chickens. Remember last year when Lola got lice from your chickens? I seem to remember a post about it...I will have to find it and make sure it was Lola. I honestly think your delusional. Why would anyone want your passwords? Are you accusing someone in particular? umm..Joanne....SOS takes in horses and gives them away to good homes...sounds just like what you posted you are doing. Thank you for that post, I had forgotten about the TB horse. Shawna Lola got lice from Ladybug not the chickens. She was at your place for a few months before she came here. Yoda showed signs of lice right away it just took me 10 days to think to look for lice as she came out of a pasture with your mares in it. She is not the only horse coming from your place that has been covered in lice. I know this for a fact. Yet you always put the blame on someone else. If you do dust the horses it is not with lice powder. It is also a fact my computer has been hacked into. I am not delusional but you seem to be pretty angry that I am coming out and saying things that other people are to scared to say. You know as well as I do that this is the truth and I think that might scare you a little which is why you feel the need to attack.
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Post by hasinger on Oct 2, 2009 15:40:28 GMT -5
I know that YOU AND I discussed Yoda having navicular. It is easily managed. I also suggested that the horses picked up the lice from the chickens. It happens all of the time.
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Post by horseylove on Oct 2, 2009 15:50:50 GMT -5
I think it would be hard for a horse to get lice from chickens withou even being arund the chickens. The ckickens were put in a coop in early fall of last year away from the horses so that is not the reason.
I am not expecting Shawa to admit to anyhing on apublic board when she wouldn't to me in messenger.
I have said what I wanted to say here.
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