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Post by calypso on Jan 7, 2009 15:11:11 GMT -5
The timing of the change from $150 to $300 was probably in the fall of 2006. I adopted Kaleigh (CBER Tabby) during that time and she was boarded at Camelot (this was before mandatory QT, but K was very sick and couldn't be transported.) I did not confirm prices with Sam directly (my bad) because there was a section on the CBER board in effect at that time had a section listing "local" (to Yakima) resources for out-of-area adopters. The Camelot fees on that thread were listed at $150 However, when I received the bill and it said $300 per month, I went back to the thread to confirm and it had been deleted. I paid without protest cause I figured it was my fault for not confirming arrangements with her directly. I assumed that the increased board cost included supplemental feed, but found out right before she came down that it didn't. Again, my bad. That old joke about assume = ass+you+me.  You left out the part where pictures showed she wasn't even at Camelot and no one could recognized the area in the background of your photo. Yeah, there is that too..... The first pics showed Sam holding her, but later pics she was held by the woman with very light/white blonde hair who used to ride at the lot during that time. |
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Post by beckybee on Jan 7, 2009 15:24:51 GMT -5
the woman with very light/white blonde hair who used to ride at the lot during that time. Cindy? |
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Post by beckybee on Jan 7, 2009 15:41:20 GMT -5
Fannie came very very close even though she had someone from the east coast paying her bills... and Paris very nearly didn't get listed at all. I remember Fannie being in danger. Originally, Barb had agreed to take five horses, and then Fannie was added on at the last minute. Izzy (Paris) is a really sweet horse. If I remember correctly, Barb rode her and was quite impressed. Modified to add and then to correct grammar: I was sweating it out with all of the weather delays. It was a relief when they were all loaded and on their way. Wasn't Fannie the pregnant mare that ended up not being pregnant? Lynn from Pregnant Mare Rescue in SoCal was going to take her and I was going to pay to ship her down ($450). I was going to pay the Linarez's when they delivered Raz, but I didn't want Fannie to show up at Lynn's and have Lynn say she didn't want her. Lynn was totally rude to me and wouldn't talk to me to confirm that she actually wanted the mare. She told me to mind my own business - Sam told her that transportation was taken care of. It took a few emails and phone messages before she finally understood was that I was the one that was taking care of it. Even then, she never thanked me. Over the next few days, Sam informed Lynn transport would be delayed, then Lynn told Sam she was full and couldn't take her, then we found out on the boards that Fanny wasn't even pregnant. |
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Post by drjinva on Jan 7, 2009 15:48:20 GMT -5
Yep, that was Fannie, who is now named Hannah. She went to MD and is now in MT. I posted some pictures of her on her thread on this board during the summer. This is a picture of Hannah and Frankie in MT.  |
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Post by Kirsten on Jan 7, 2009 16:12:19 GMT -5
They both look amazing!!! Thanks for posting the pic Debbie!  |
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Post by calypso on Jan 7, 2009 16:15:08 GMT -5
Uh...should probably clarify here.
Fannie (Hannah) was going to PMR as part of a negotiated deal brokered by Bonnie of Exceller Fund after a big brouha blew on ABR over some pregnant mares. Since PMR is located within an hour of me I offered to do a site visit before she was sent. I also arranged to have Fannie preg checked (and paid for it). She was open, so I communicated to both Lynn and Sam that I didn't think placement at PMR was appropriate for a mare that was not expecting. A day or two before the shipper finally arrived to take the horses to the east coast, Sam called me and asked if I could take Fannie. She was a bit reluctant to ship an older mare clear cross country. At the time I said I couldn't take any more. I told her Diva (Kaleigh's baby) was injured and I was in a bit of a brouha of my own with the BO and the vet over it and didn't know what kind of bills I was facing for her.
I've heard Lynn was unpleasant to a number of people associated with CBER at the time and it left a bad taste. All I can say that Lynn has always been a complete pleasure to deal with for me. Since I wasn't part of any of the ABR stuff I can only assume she was getting pounded from all sides, didn't know who to believe/trust and reacted rather than responded.
I am SO happy to see/hear that Hannah and Frankie are doing so well! I felt very bad about not taking her, and was worried about the long haul for her. But knew I was at my limit. (over, really. Then promptly got embroiled in another horse, Rosy, but that is another (non-CBER) story.) Hannah and Frankie look wonderful! Have you heard how she's weathering the winter?
mta: for typos
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Post by calypso on Jan 7, 2009 16:24:42 GMT -5
the woman with very light/white blonde hair who used to ride at the lot during that time. Cindy? maybe? Can't see her face, just her hair. Here's the pic  In all fairness, I didn't really care what Kaleigh's actually location was (Camelot or some other farm) since I hadn't been to any of them. I just wanted her out on pasture grazing and this pic showed a very nice neat house with lots of green. And a horse that was gaining weight and had a suspicious looking tummy all of a sudden. I might have felt very differently if the pic had showed a trashy place with cr@p all around and/or a not-gaining-weight horse. In fact, it wasn't until a few months ago I was told that house was *not* Sam's place. I always assumed it was, and that the rider (Cindy?) was just holding K while Sam took the pic. mta: LOL - this pic doesn't even show her hair! oh well.... it's the only one I can find right now. |
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Post by drjinva on Jan 7, 2009 16:28:01 GMT -5
Hannah lost some weight after being shipped to MT, but is doing really good now. Whenever the weather got really really frigid in MT, I heard that the horses were all standing outside of the barn chilling in the sun. Frankie was scheduled to go to training on Jan. 1.
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Post by TashGaia on Jan 7, 2009 16:30:44 GMT -5
That looks like the "Final Pasture" that Sam rented for like $150.
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Post by lorsadoon on Jan 7, 2009 18:42:54 GMT -5
That looks like the "Final Pasture" that Sam rented for like $150. I hate to ask what you mean by "Final Pasture". Is this where they go to spend that one last summer frolicing in the meadow before they go to their demise? Or are they just getting fattened up to be returned to the slaughter pipeline? |
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Post by halfwayhome on Jan 7, 2009 23:16:04 GMT -5
Yes, this is the place where the "greener pastures" was located. Its not too far from Camelot Farms, located in Yakima County. I am the one who hauled Kahleigh there, along with another horse at the time. It is a nice place and the people who own it are kind and generous. There are several different pasture areas there and one of them had an idyllic setting, with green trees, creeks, shade, etc. That is the one deemed "greener pastures" for where the horses S planned on putting down before winter would go to enjoy life in the summer before. To my knowledge at the time, that pasture was donated to Cber by the owners, although that may have changed later. They only allowed a certain number of horses at a time, and S would shuffle horses in and out as needed.
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Post by calypso on Jan 10, 2009 13:19:07 GMT -5
Yes, this is the place where the "greener pastures" was located. Its not too far from Camelot Farms, located in Yakima County. I am the one who hauled Kahleigh there, along with another horse at the time. It is a nice place and the people who own it are kind and generous. There are several different pasture areas there and one of them had an idyllic setting, with green trees, creeks, shade, etc. That is the one deemed "greener pastures" for where the horses S planned on putting down before winter would go to enjoy life in the summer before. To my knowledge at the time, that pasture was donated to Cber by the owners, although that may have changed later. They only allowed a certain number of horses at a time, and S would shuffle horses in and out as needed. So, you are saying Sam was billing me (and others) $300 per month for pasture board where she was paying nothing? sigh. |
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Post by Admin on Jan 10, 2009 13:24:18 GMT -5
That is correct
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Post by piopico on Jan 10, 2009 20:47:12 GMT -5
Tireddog hit it on the head for me...........it was so nice feeling I was part of a big family all in it for one thing- to save the horses. I admit I'm gullible, and a bit of a sucker........luckily my family got 4 great horses from CBER without losing my a**, and I believe- "HOPE?  ?"- donations I made WERE used effectively. But for me now, "local" is the way to go. EVERYONE has either an Auction house, or feedlot, or Rescue within 100 miles.........help where you can check on things yourself, to see that it's legit. It was great having Kelly saving horses from across the continent- we were part of this huge WEB- but how much hassle did she have to go thru, and how much was she taken for...? Never again........... |
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Post by tireddog on Jan 10, 2009 20:55:29 GMT -5
And Piopico, in addition to looking in our own geographic locations for where we can help, we have established a network here where we can help each other. You are in the Bay area and find a horse in my neck of the woods who you are drawn to and want to help? I pick up the horse for you, keep the horse until we can start a rescue railroad journey to you, and we continue our work of "No Horse Left Behind" in the most sincere sense of the phrase. I am appalled at the number of horses I am learning who were left behind by CBER - forcibly and intentionally SENT TO SLAUGHTER. We are not a part of that corruption any longer.
Let the new year bring new hope for the horses.
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?"- donations I made WERE used effectively. 