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Post by mbr on May 31, 2009 13:14:44 GMT -5
It just says they there was someone that wanted to look at her. I just don't understand how she shipped on the 16th when Chuck said the plant is full and he wasn't shipping any, none of the horses that were with her shipped  |
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Post by dancinwithhorses on Jun 1, 2009 11:06:08 GMT -5
I read that post as well. It took more then 10 days for them to realize that the horse shipped on the 16th?!?
The NW American Rescue site is CBER's new site without a doubt. The site that is listed as CBERS forum is dead. So again how many BB has CBER had? I wish their 501 C3 status would be revoked.
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Post by luvmypaints on Jun 1, 2009 17:20:06 GMT -5
I read that post as well. It took more then 10 days for them to realize that the horse shipped on the 16th?!? The NW American Rescue site is CBER's new site without a doubt. The site that is listed as CBERS forum is dead. So again how many BB has CBER had? I wish their 501 C3 status would be revoked. I don't really know what happened with the horse your'e talking about, but if you want you can ask Jonna, the admin for the NW site and she'll give you an honest answer. As far as the NW site being "the new" CBER site, you are dead wrong! The only thing the NW site has in common with CBER is that they post horses from Chuck's lot, however, these horses are being offered at the price Chuck would sell them to any joe blow off the street, there is no mandatory QT required and the adopter/buyer deals directly through Chuck. There is absolutely no money changing hands on this site! it is simply a place where we can ALL go to buy, sell, and rehome the horses we all love! Also, the only involvement Sam has with NW is that she is going to the lot and taking pictures for NW to post,( FREE OF CHARGE), and she is offering to QT at a reasonable cost to the buyers if they have no place to do it themselves and since QT is something that the new owner decides whether they want to or not, it's not like she's making any money off of this either. The folks here at the RO board have been invited to work with the NW board to post and place horses in need, but so far they have chosen not to which is fine, no hard feelings, however if they change their minds they will be more than welcome! As far as the CBER board goes, it's still up and running, theres just not a lot of new horses being posted and it's mostly just a BB for members old and new to talk about what we all love... HORSES! Oh and as far as any posts being deleted from the NW site, if you read the Board Ethics, you'll see that the admin. will not tolerate any drama, bad mouthing or basically any negativity! It's strictly a place to work as a group to find homes for needy horses without all of the other BS ;D I really hope that you'll come check it out, it's kinda nice to see everyone there working on the true reason we're all here, to save horses! P.S. I know I used to be a CBER volunteer, but have since moved on so I'm not biased on any of this  |
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Post by halfwayhome on Jun 1, 2009 19:24:47 GMT -5
You obviously haven't read well the postings on that site regarding the horses at Chuck Walkers lot... anytime anyone asks about them, or about seeing them, they are referred to S am: they must meet her there, must talk to her or call her phone number, must arrange with her, etc etc etc. So although there is no mandatory QT, it still is her "thing". If you think she does it for nothing you are misguided, you just don't see her "cut", and if you think those are the prices to the general public that he would necessarily sell them for in this day and age when he is being given horses or pays 50-100$ for them, you are being misguided again. Besides, just where do you think many of those draft crosses come from? Its just another way she is stepping outside the c ber name to make money off of horses in a slaughter pen. I am happy if the horses get good FOREVER homes, but once again the whole truth is being hidden behind all you people who mean well but don't have a clue.
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Post by lorsadoon on Jun 1, 2009 19:30:03 GMT -5
How many miles from the feedlot does Sam live?
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Post by halfwayhome on Jun 1, 2009 22:21:45 GMT -5
From Yakima to the feedlot is about 15 miles, from the end of town/freeway at Yakima to her house is about 12 miles., so approximately 27-28 miles total.
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jonna
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Post by jonna on Jun 2, 2009 12:01:39 GMT -5
Horse Rescuers ~ I have fought coming on and making a statement ~ partly because I don't like conflicts, but mostly because I don't think you would believe what I write anyways. But this is the truth nonetheless... Northwest American Horse Rescues was developed as any easy resource to to rescue and re-home all horses in the NW Pacific, and find only positive help. Mission Statement
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Northwest American Horse Rescues is a Community Board dedicated to assisting abused, neglected and abandoned horses. NAHR is an independent group of dedicated horse fanciers who work together to educate the general public about these unspeakable sufferings and promotes the rescue, recovery and rehabilitation of previously unwanted horses.
Our goal is to assist in the placement of these beautiful, deserving creatures in homes that will give them the true love and care they deserve.
We find our adoption candidates through direct contact with equine rescues, owners, as well as through a wide variety of referrals. If you know of a horse or horses in need, please contact us. Listing is free. Finding a horse a loving new life is priceless!!!
Our board ethics are clearly posted on every thread:
As a courtesy and out of respect for our Horses, please, let's keep this board for listing horses, horse care, marketing ideas, etc.
Please respect other people and other groups. Any derogatory comments aimed at others will be deleted by the staff. If you can't say something nice, don't post it, or take it somewhere else.
Let's show the horses we love them by working together, and making their lives happier by finding them homes where they will be cherished family members.The site lists from every rescue, and other rescue heads/contacts can be made moderators if they would like so they can edit their own listings. Many of the group just don't have time for that, others have taken advantage and do their own listings. I have written letters to each group requesting permission to list them, and given them full access to however it suits them best. They all have a direct contact person. And if someone doesn't want the help, that's OK. Please don't think I am intentionally NOT listing specific groups. My desire is that they ALL be listed. Regarding CBER. The site is NOT an offshoot or an affiliation of CBER. Melis is the contact with Sam, and they are not really CBER horses. I have not spoken to Sam recently, with the exception of picking up the last two horse I rescued... Eddie and Dasher/Baylee, and to tell her thank you I love them both! They contacted me with the feed lot rescues and asked if I would list them, or allow them to be listed. Would you have said no to this one??  or any of the ones on the feed lot? To me, they are the most in need of help; more so than the ones who have already been rescued and are now looking for that forever love home. At any rate, that is my statement concern the speculations that have emerged since the creation of the board. I wish you all peace in what you do on your own rescue platform. And I pray for the horses that need homes and love. You are all welcome and invited to take part in the NW Rescues board, but if not, that's ok. As in many things, time will tell what it is and who we are. And I hope time will reveal in your hearts the good that the board was established to do. |
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Post by jonna on Jun 2, 2009 17:40:34 GMT -5
Tash I certainly understand your line of reasoning, and take it under consideration. Did you really go under profiles and count the number of moderators?  I do see several former CBER people, but also some newer faces that are not CBER, as well as several of the rescue groups leaders, and a few advisers. Also when I looked at our members list, I see many new faces. The fact that they do not spend a great deal of time posting or otherwise does not concern me. I am hoping they come to find and help horses, and don't necessarily feel the need to chat yet. Hopefully the feeling is warm and friendly while they are visiting, and if they did want to find friends, we would all welcome them. We are in a stage of growth. I really hadn't intended on counting the number of horses listed, but your comments sparked my interest. Helen has been a very busy bee listing numerous ones, and I'm not sure if you looked under each one to see where each horse is from. We have all been listing horses from other rescues. Of the approximately 65 horses listed, I counted maybe 14 that were CBER related. I don't know your criteria for considering one to be "CBER-ish", but the remaining 51 are from other rescues. I did not count the CL listed ones in that tally. There are 8 CL listed, and a few were. I'm not sure how the number of CBER horses being listed will increase. The feedlot ones will either be rescued or sent to slaughter. There will be no rescuing without having a home lined up ~ unless I am mistaken, Sam will not be fostering or sponsoring any horses. They will simply be saved or shipped. As far as header pictures go, it is rotated every three days or so. The last three days was of a darling buckskin colt. Not sure if you saw it. There was a white horse featured from the Burns rescue last week. We will be featuring a new horse every 3 days or so, so each one will have a rotation without favoritism. And yes, there will be time given for the ones one the lot. I guess one option would be for me to not list the lot horses at all...and let them ship like this one did...  Given my choices, I would rather do what I can to help out the ones on the lot. As I said before, time will tell. |
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Post by beckybee on Jun 2, 2009 20:18:58 GMT -5
Jonna,
I get a really sqwicky feeling from your signature line,"but love covers over all wrongs." Not "defeats," "vanquishes," or otherwise eliminates wrongs. Just covers.
It's pretty appropriate, but surprising that you would admit you are just scraping some "warm feelings" over some big betrayals of humans and horses.
You do recognize that all of us here have been where you are - that's why this board was started. Why don't you post all those horses here? RO actually has a larger active membership than your board. Admittedly, this board has a bad rep because it at one time supported Sam and Dean (back before they turned on eachother).
Do you think people shouldn't "stir up dissension" if they feel something bad is happening? Not rocking the boat is how evil is allowed to flourish.
Did you at all follow Jason Meduna the mustang starver? Should he be allowed to keep rescuing horses even though 70 horses died under his supervision? I mean, look at how many horses are alive today because of him! The only difference between Sam and Jason is that it's legal for someone to kill horses by slaughtering them even though it is illegal to starve them.
I think Sam is using you and your board as she has used countless others. That is of course your business. Do you really believe that Sam isn't taking kickbacks from Chuck? We saw evidence of Sam doing this with the other FLO when SOS was still associated CBER - why would she change her tactics now?
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Post by lorsadoon on Jun 2, 2009 20:28:40 GMT -5
Jonna, I have no doubt you have invested your heart into the new board. You seem to want to give the horses another chance.
We have all been there. Some of us were there for a long time. The one thing we now have in common is that we eventually had our hearts broken. I hope you will not get yours broken too,(but I am afraid you will) but there seems to be a common pattern to all of us who have been supporters of Sam and CBER. One day we just could not look the other way at all the things that were done that harmed the very horses we wanted to save. I know I justified helping out for along time because I figured I was helping a horse. I finally saw the light with Lavender and Meadow, then Antigua. Now, ironicaly, the very association of CBER to a horse actually hurts that horse. What a shame.
The idea for your board is good. I hope the presence of CBER does not ruin it for all you hope to accomplish.
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Post by TashGaia on Jun 3, 2009 1:14:16 GMT -5
Jonna I was defining CBER-ish horses as any horse that Sam ever assessed and adopted out from the feedlot.
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Post by hytyme on Jun 3, 2009 15:01:12 GMT -5
Jonna,
Please take our horses OFF of your website. We choose to select the advertising media we wish to use. The listing of these horses was NOT authorized by ANY of the directors here.
Thank you.
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Post by jonna on Jun 3, 2009 15:46:53 GMT -5
I hope I am not getting anyone in trouble, but here is a copy of the note I sent to the volunteer department, which responded with with a yes, it would be ok to list the horses. I'm sorry for the confusion, and I would not have posted them if I knew it was against anyone's wishes, or without someone saying it was ok. Please contact me privately if there are any more questions. Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 8:08 AM Hello ____ has been visiting our board, and informing us know you are looking for volunteers to help out for your Fundraiser coming up.. I live in Bend, Oregon, but would love to help out in any way I can. I run a proboard that is listing horses and rescues in the North West, and I would love to have Hytyme's permission to list the horses you have that are available for adoption. Basically, I will copy the picture and description you have of the horse, and place him/her in the appropriate category with your contact information.... kind of like pet finders... Here is an example of a well developed ad.. nwhorserescues.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=available3&action=display&thread=23 The listings are free, of course, and you don't have to do anything. And we will check your site often to make sure we aren't listing anything that has already found a home. The site is not affiliated with any one rescue. We list horse rescues from all groups. Here is our Mission Statement. Northwest American Horse Rescues is a Community Board dedicated to assisting abused, neglected and abandoned horses. NAHR is an independent group of dedicated horse fanciers who work together to educate the general public about these unspeakable sufferings and promotes the rescue, recovery and rehabilitation of previously unwanted horses. Our goal is to assist in the placement of these beautiful, deserving creatures in homes that will give them the true love and care they deserve. We find our adoption candidates through direct contact with equine rescues, owners, as well as through a wide variety of referrals. If you know of a horse or horses in need, please contact us. Listing is free. Finding a horse a loving new life is priceless!!! Since the creation of the board April 23, 2009, I estimate it has assisted 8 horses in finding a home. Please let us know right away so we can get to work posting your horses. We will not post without your permission. God Bless! And I hope your fundraiser is a SUCCESS and many horses find homes! Jonna McGinnis Northwest American Horse Rescues nwhorserescues.proboards.com/index.cgiall horses from Hytyme will be removed. |
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Post by luvmypaints on Jun 3, 2009 17:04:37 GMT -5
I really wish that we could all just get over all of the hatred and bad feelings, forget, (or at least push it to the farthest corner of your memories) CBER and it's past and work together as a network of horselovin' folks that have only their best interests at heart! I always believed that the more helping hands you have on a diffucult job the faster and better the results! And in these days of hard times what can be more difficult than to save these horses?! Put aside your personal feelings and think about what really matters here! THE LIVES OF THE HORSES!! Whether they are on the feed lot, at an auction, or a private sale we all know where they will most likely end up without our help, and it won't be somewhere nice!
Please just consider this and give it some heartfelt thought before posting the almighty "We hate Sam/CBER" response.
Have a great afternoon and hug your horses!
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Post by beckybee on Jun 3, 2009 17:49:59 GMT -5
Please just consider this and give it some heartfelt thought before posting the almighty "We hate Sam/CBER" response. I think I can speak for many people here in saying that our grievances with Sam came after years of wholeheartedly supporting and defending her. I think it is understandable that we feel her betrayal very deeply. Probably everyone posting on this thread has had personal interactions with Sam as we tried to "lend a helping hand" to get Sam to conduct her business in a more forthright manner. It has been proven how she has lied and manipulated and unilaterally decided to send horses to their deaths or to friends for breeding. These weren't mistakes or bad judgement - these were purposeful, selfish acts. Our reponses aren't "hate," our responses are justifiable suspicion. I believe it is morally wrong to turn a blind eye to unethical and illegal behavior. Don't you think there would be a reason all of these passionate supporters (who gave money, time and tears to CBER for years) turned on Sam? Or did we all just wake up one day and decide to be "bitchy"? |
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Post by luvmypaints on Jun 3, 2009 18:57:09 GMT -5
I guess I'm not wording this right, but what I'm trying to say is to hell with CBER and whatever happened in the past, I think that if we could all work together and network like the NW site is trying to do the results would be awesome! The whole strength in numbers mentality without all of the drama and BS is a very attractive scenario if you ask me! Also, someone said that they were concerned about the former CBER volunteers that are now working on Jonna's board, did it ever occur to you that maybe they got sick of all the drama and joined the NW board to actually rescue horses instead of fighting a constant battle... (IMO)
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Post by beckybee on Jun 3, 2009 19:09:45 GMT -5
So if CBER is out of the picture, then why not do the posting, networking, etc. here? That's what we do. Why futher splinter the group if we are all in it for the horses? Is it just that you "hate" us?
NW will have to relinquish all ties to CBER in order to gain credibility. This means not listing any horses that are connected to Sam or having any mods that are CBER BOD/officers. No one will believe you're neutral.
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Post by jfinnegan on Jun 4, 2009 10:06:03 GMT -5
FYI
I am a Admin on the the new NAHR board. I have never been a volunteer/officer with CBER. Yes I am a member of the CBER board but I am a member of several diferent rescue boards as well, looking for the right horse for my son. I have yet to find the "one", but that is not going to stop me from looking.
I am a Admin on the new board becasue I feel it is important to help the horses in need. Very seldom do I see a horse in need on this RO Board. The ones lately that have been posted are in California. As much as I would like to possible help them it is a unrealistic rescue to me as I live in Washington.
I do not understand why you past CBER people who just keep bashing on & on can not see that the new board is here to help ALL HORSES from ALL RESCUES!!! If we sever all ties with Sam, CBER and the Yakima feed lot then we will have to live with the guilt of horses going to slaughter because of Past Problems.
The new board just gets that much more exposure to those horses in need.
But do what ever you need to do, becasue we will keep motoring on.
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Post by beckybee on Jun 4, 2009 10:52:35 GMT -5
If we sever all ties with Sam, CBER and the Yakima feed lot then we will have to live with the guilt of horses going to slaughter because of Past Problems. FYI There is more than one feedlot/kill buyer in Washington. There is a list on this board somewhere. Have you looked at SOS Equine Rescue? They are rescuing horses off a feedlot and they've never sold or traded a horse back to slaughter. They actually rehab, train and assess. You can also look at the Seattle (and other WA) craigslist ads yourself, rather than wait for someone to repost. I cannot in good conscience continue to support CBER now that I know what she has done. Many of us continue to rescue horses without sending money through Sam/Chuck. I just got a free skinny older mare off of my local craigslist. I got her entire life history and vet records, she's sound, sane and rideable, registered half-arab. She is a bombproof trail horse, extremely well-trained, smooth gaits and transitions and will be a perfect beginner kids horse. I paid about $700 for each of my four CBER horses, plus $300 each for 1 month of qt, plus $400 for transport, plus $100 or so for "supplements" in qt, plus about $150 for coggins/health cert. So that's about $1600 each for 4 horses, only 2 of which are marginally rideable (one of those after $2000 in vet assessments and surgery). On top of that I have at least $1500 into training on three of the 4 (only $500 into the 4th). So all told, over $3000 per horse. On top of that is the $83,000 in medical bills from shattering my leg when I bailed off the "panic bucker." I love my 4 CBER boys dearly and they will be with me for the rest of their lives. I have the luxury of having the money and room to support 4 freeloaders for the next 10-25 years of their lives. But I would strongly recommend rescuing a horse on your own. In this horse market, there are so many awesome free horses you can pick up before the owners dump them at the feedlots. Plus you can have a trainer and vet you trust assess the horse to try to ensure you are getting the right horse. If you do go through a rescue, pick a rescue that actually assesses the horses and will take the horse back if it doesn't work out. Yes, Sam did offer to take my bucker back, but she admitted she would have him shot. She said there are too many horses to waste time and money on rehab/retraining. If you can save the lives of horses while avoiding supporting unethical people, why not go that route? |
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Post by jfinnegan on Jun 4, 2009 11:19:01 GMT -5
Beckybee
The whole point of my post was to show that not all Admin's on the new board are CBER volunteers or former volunteers.
So please do not assume that I have not checked out all availabke horses in my area as well as all rescues. Because that is exactly what you did was assume... This is why I don't post here much because unless you are the in crowd you get your throat jumped down because people assume way to much.
And yes I have checked out SOS and I have not seen anything that I want!!! Nor have there been any private rescues in my area that have been the one!!!
So excuse me for helping unwanted horses on the new board.
Any more accusatory or assuming responses will not be responded to, because you do not know me to make these type of comments.
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Post by beckybee on Jun 4, 2009 11:41:52 GMT -5
I was jumping down your throat?! I was just trying to show you that there are other options for saving horses than Sam/Chuck that are more logical. You said guilt drove you to support Sam/Chuck. Sam has used that guilt for years.
BTW, most of the people here were all at one time CBER BODs, volunteers, frequent adopters, hardcore cheerleaders, fundraisers and/or ad placers.
No one here holds anyone to blame for past support of CBER. It's the continued support and cover-up that we feel we must speak out about.
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Post by jfinnegan on Jun 4, 2009 12:14:57 GMT -5
I never said I was supporting CBER, I just said that I was a member looking for the right horse. So there you go turning my words again!!!!!!!
I am so done with this accusatory board(not everyone is accusatory however just a few), I will only post on threads that mean something from now on if then!!!!
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Post by lorsadoon on Jun 4, 2009 12:18:20 GMT -5
Beckybee The whole point of my post was to show that not all Admin's on the new board are CBER volunteers or former volunteers. So please do not assume that I have not checked out all availabke horses in my area as well as all rescues. Because that is exactly what you did was assume... This is why I don't post here much because unless you are the in crowd you get your throat jumped down because people assume way to much. And yes I have checked out SOS and I have not seen anything that I want!!! Nor have there been any private rescues in my area that have been the one!!! So excuse me for helping unwanted horses on the new board. Any more accusatory or assuming responses will not be responded to, because you do not know me to make these type of comments. I don't think Beckybee was jumping or accusing at all, just responding to this one statement Today at 8:06am, jfinnegan wrote:If we sever all ties with Sam, CBER and the Yakima feed lot then we will have to live with the guilt of horses going to slaughter because of Past Problems. Neither you or I would have anything to feel guilty about. Horses go to slaughter everyday all around us. We would make ourselves insane if we thought we could prevent every needless death. We can only do what we can do. We feel bad because we see the pictures of the horses at Chucks. That is part of how Sam got us hooked. What if we posted pictures of every horse on Craigslist who is doomed to going to the auction? Would you feel guilty about them too. I have spent over 4 years being emotionally torn up by Sam and her antics. I finally realized it is like living in a bad relationship. One day I just kicked myself in the ass and said enough is enough. Because I gave her and CBER one more chance, about 50 times. The problems there are NOT past. They are ongoing and for those of us who have been around along time, we realize NOTHING will ever change. I hope Jonnas board works and I hope you find a horse you are looking for. But if Chucks horses are not listed there, believe me there are plenty of needy horses which can replace them. And the only one to feel guilty should be the one who caused everyone to shun CBER and their practices. (That would be Sam and her ever changing core of supporters) CBER has their board, list Chucks horses there and give Jonna a chance to see if her board can thrive without them. Maybe she can help more if it is not Sam/CBER related at all. |
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Post by luvmypaints on Jun 4, 2009 13:02:26 GMT -5
Can everyone for just one second try to look at jfinnegan and others who support the posting of feedlot horses point of view, including myself:
We all know there are way to many horses out there in need of good homes, we also know that most of those horses will no doubt end up ON A FEEDLOT, whether it be Chucks, Oly's, or any of the others, the lot will more than likely be their final drop off point before they are shipped for slaughter!
So answer this for me please, "Why not list the feedlot horses and try to find them homes?" why should the horses have to pay with their lives just because you have had a bad experience with an orginization or the person behind it?
All personal feelings put aside, WE are the last resort for any and all horses that end up on a feedlot, bottom line!
Also, when jfinnegan said she felt "guilty" I think she meant that the guilt would come from not trying to help those horses because of all of the human drama and had absolutely nothing to do with Sam or CBER intentionally "making" her feel guilty!
It is so hard to carry on a civil conversation on this board if you are not an "insider" because there are so many that are way to quick to judge without knowing the person and what they're true intentions are, sad really when you think about it...
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Post by beckybee on Jun 4, 2009 13:08:37 GMT -5
Ugh.
Why do I let myself get drawn into this?
Others are going to repeat our mistakes until they learn for themselves like we did. I justified horses getting shot, traded/sold back to the feedlot, sent to Wayne, etc. because I felt that that "collateral" damage was worth all the lives that were being saved. One day, you realize that other rescues don't make this many "mistakes" and you have just been enabling abuse.
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Post by beckybee on Jun 4, 2009 13:17:34 GMT -5
luvmypaints
I totally understand your position - I felt exactly the same way for a long time.
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Post by luvmypaints on Jun 4, 2009 13:57:01 GMT -5
well I guess that we all have the right to our own opinion and Lord only knows we all have enough of those, LOL! I feel this way, I don't give a rats behind about CBER or Sam or Chuck or any other feedlot operators! I care about the horses that ended up there and the fact that we as "equine rescuers" have the opportunity to help save their lives! I don't care one little bit who gets the money or what they do with it as long as it gets the horse off the lot and safe from being slaughtered! And I will continue to help by donating my time and energy into trying my best to see these and every other horse in need find a wonderful home.
Now if you want to call me naive, stupid or mislead then that is your choice, I myself see it as being a person who has a strong conviction to rescue as many horses as possible from a fate of unbearable agony and death! I own 3 rescues that came off of Chucks lot and if not for others that feel the same as me I wouldn't have these 3 gorgeous and amazing animals in my life, and that would be terribly sad!
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Post by tireddog on Jun 4, 2009 14:20:58 GMT -5
I wish all of you could somehow - no matter how impossible it seems - start a horse rescue together. Perhaps you could start a new board (I know ... I know) that focuses solely on placing horses at risk. The power, conviction, strength, love, and dedication I hear behind all your words is unbelievable. Instead of each of you feeling the need to justify your positions (most of which I understand completely, even if they are in polar opposition to each other), I wish you could be working together to do what we all do best - save horses. Your passion is great. Your motivation is intense. You women could move mountains.
There are several rescues in Oregon who would most likely welcome your help with wide open arms. No, their horses are not threatened with the plight of slaughter as these are rescues who have horses in their possession and will keep them until they are placed or until they pass. Still, these horses need homes just as much as the horses on the feedlots need homes. And these rescues need help, too - volunteers who are willing to help them place horses.
It seems no matter where you sit on the CBER issue, CBER continues to receive the wealth of the attention. You know how when you think a thought enough times or repeat the same phrase continuously, it becomes real? You give it life by validating and affirming it, even if it is a bad thought or negative phrase. Well ...
It seems underneath it all you are all saying the same thing. You may not feel the same way, but given your level of experience with CBER, but you are on the same side of the horse rescue fence. As a collective whole, you would be so powerful. You might even become something more powerful than that which receives all the attention.
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Post by beckybee on Jun 4, 2009 14:41:49 GMT -5
I wish all of you could somehow - no matter how impossible it seems - start a horse rescue together. We'll just help you when you start yours!  |
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Post by jonna on Jun 4, 2009 15:01:52 GMT -5
AmyJo... that's what I tried to do...
I did not realize the powerful negative effect that listing the Feedlot horses would have on the board.
At any rate, after Friday the NW Rescues Board will no longer be listing CBER related horses. It seems that by listing them, it is hurting the horses we are trying to help, and eventually the board will fail.
There will also be changes in moderation.
I would welcome any help ....
If you have any questions, or would like to help with the board, please e-mail me. nwhorserescues@live.com
modified to fix Amyjo's name...
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I do see several former CBER people, but also some newer faces that are not CBER, as well as several of the rescue groups leaders, and a few advisers. Also when I looked at our members list, I see many new faces. The fact that they do not spend a great deal of time posting or otherwise does not concern me. I am hoping they come to find and help horses, and don't necessarily feel the need to chat yet. Hopefully the feeling is warm and friendly while they are visiting, and if they did want to find friends, we would all welcome them. We are in a stage of growth.
