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Post by quatzie on Feb 14, 2007 23:22:00 GMT -5
I made contact with the owner today. See link below for complete story. HayforHorse and I are going to try to help her, with the following essentials items for the sick colts We need Senior Horse feed for the sick colt and some grain for the other colt and She is out of Alfalfa for both .. Please if you can help out just 5 dollars or something....
Please I would hate to see these poor foals lives ended.
My Paypal Account is quatzie_baby@hotmail.com
... any amount would help or even some hay if you can donate a bale or two ... if in the Portland Area .. Thank you so much .. Jeannie rescuesonly.proboards59.com/index.cgi?board=now&action=display&thread=1171057740 ----------------------------------------------------------- HayforHorses wrote ---- "A horse owner in the Oregon City area whom I have found donated hay for said that she is now seriously considering euthanizing her 2 rescue colts who are around 7 months old. Here is the story: She rescued two colts off a slaughter (?) truck this last autumn. About a month ago, one of the colts came down with a severe case of pneumnia so she had to move her 3 adult horses to another boarding facility so they would not be infected. She had to pay the vet $800 for antibiotics. This used up the $$ she had saved for hay. This is the point at which I learned about her and the hay situation and I found her some donated hay which will last maybe a couple of weeks. Now, a couple of weeks ago, the same colt came down with what the vet said might be Strangles...!!! While she was waiting to hear back from the vet I spoke with her, and, because I am a Master Herbalist student, I figured that the colt's immune system needed some real boosting in order to fight off the Strangles and all the stress that the colt has been through. A few days ago I drove down to meet her and I gave her a couple of natural products to give to the colt. Yesterday she told me that the colt is showing a little bit more energy, but, the Strangles situation seems to be the same. The vet said that the colt does have Strangles, so, the woman has to disinfect everything the colt is around and touches. She also has to completely wash herself and change her clothing before she goes anywhere else. She was driving to different places the same day I went to see her and all the vets and stores were out of the disinfectant that her vet told her to use. She says that, on top of that, the disinfectant will cost $60 and that she can't even afford that after all the vet bills. She really doesn't want to euthanize the colts, especially the colt, because she loves his personality. She calls him Mr. Personality. She told me today that she is too overwhelmed from all this. The stables she worked at let has her go because they are afraid she will pass on the Strangles to their horses (which is totally understandable). She has also lost her other job (I don't know the nature of it). She now has no income and doesn't know what to do. " Please let me know if you can help her. Also, if there is an organization that can help her, please let me know. Please email me at hay_for_horses_hay_for_horses@yahoo.com Thank you so much, Aimee Hay for Horses" |
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Post by hayforhorses - The Food Angel on Feb 15, 2007 2:24:51 GMT -5
Hi, Jeannie...and, everyone else here, Thanks for starting this new thread, Jeannie...I spoke with Emily today...she said that the colt is still sick and the neck is still hot and hard. The vet says he may have to catherize (sp?) the colt to start some draining. Emily says she needs: 1) Senior Horse Feed for the sick colt... 2) Grains for the other colt... 3) Alfalfa Hay... 4) Transfer Factor Animal Stress Pack from 4Life.... 5) $$ for the upcoming Strangles cultures to be done on the 2 colts (3 cultures on each colt taken 2 weeks apart).... 6) Pure Encapsulations Colostrum... 1 & 2) Jeannie will work on getting some grain...but, Emily will defintely need more...the vet said that the colt may take another three months to get well...so, if you can donate some Senior Horse Feed and some other grains, it would be greatly appreciated...you can call Emily at 503-572-5262 3) I will look for some Alfalfa Hay...so, this is my first step in this mission: Please, if you have some Alfalfa Hay, even a bale or two, would you donate them to her? Emily is in the Oregon City area...you can get her address from Jeannie or myself...or, you can call her yourself (but, be sure to leave a detailed VM if she doesn't answer immediately): 503-572-5262 4) Transfer Factor Animal Stress Pack from 4Life....I gave her a bottle of human Transfer Factor Plus this last Sunday...a woman told me that she saved her mare with Transfer Factor Animal Stress Pack, so, if you have any on hand or if you would buy some to donate, here is a link: www.food4pets.com/4life/transferfactorstresspac.htm I don't sell it myself.....the one Igave to Emily was given to me by a friend. I couldn't use it because it has soy in it. There is some great specific info on that website... 5) Also, any $$ would be great...a few dollars here and there would really add up if each person here would donate to help out the 2 colts....we are putting all monetary donations in Jeannie's PayPal account which is: quatzie_baby@hotmail.com 6) Pure Encapsulations Colostrum...I am buying this myself for the colt. I will deliver it to her... That's all I can think of for now...oh, I just thought of something: Emily said that the other colt will need a good farrier who can treat his turned out feet...are any of you a farrier who could help this colt? Or, can you donate some $$ to help? Well, it's late....if you have any questions or suggestions, please email me at: hay_for_horses_hay_for_horses@yahoo.com Warmly, Aimee Hay for Horses |
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Post by ebo on Feb 15, 2007 9:44:34 GMT -5
Aimee--Can you give us the name and phone number of her feed store, so that we could pay for feed!? I've learned that many places will let you call in an order with your credit card, and then the needy owner can pick it up. We'd also need Emily's full name as well.
With your permission, I'll cross post this.
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Post by quatzie on Feb 15, 2007 9:54:26 GMT -5
Hi Ebo
I have Feed coupons for Senior Feed buy 2 get 2 free that I was going to use for Emily and then deliver the grain to her I am about 35 mile from Oregon City. I was trying to get the most product for the money, But that is find if you want to send funds directly to the feed store.
We will have to find out which one she uses. Then post to the board or directly to you.
Thank you so much ..Emily really needs our help
Jeannie in Salem
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Post by ebo on Feb 15, 2007 11:57:05 GMT -5
Quatzie, I'll do a cc order wherever. I have a cash deficit, though, so anything I do is going to have to be by cc. I can paypal a little on the cc to you IF you have the type of paypal that will accept it.
Post the info here for the benefit of anyone else who might like to join in.
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Post by quatzie on Feb 15, 2007 13:04:18 GMT -5
Yes, I can take Credit Cards on my account, I just upgraded it. So if anyone would like to join in that would be great ..
My Paypal account is quatzie_baby@hotmail.com
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Post by hayforhorses - The Food Angel on Feb 15, 2007 22:40:54 GMT -5
Hi, Jeannie,
Emily just returned my call a few minutes ago....here is the info you need:
She usually buys feed at Barton Farm and Garden 25618 SE Hwy 224 Boring, OR, 97009 (503) 637-6440....
The colt with Strangles eats Allegra Senior Feed...and, the other colt eats Allegra Baby Feed...Emily said that other brands would be okay as long as one says Senior Feed and the other says Baby Feed...
The vet she uses is Dr. Hall at Equus Veterinary Service. (503) 655-7009 | 412 S Beavercreek Rd # 604 Oregon City, OR....
I checked with Emily to see if she wants her name publicly posted here or if she prefers that we pass it on to each other via email...she prefers the latter method....so, if you need her last name and/or her physical address, please email me or Jeannie and we will gladly pass on that information...
My email address is: hay_for_horses_hay_for_horses@yahoo.com
Emily's ph # is: 503-572-5262....just be sure to leave a VM, though, if she does not answer right away, as she is out in the barn a lot and won't know who to call if there is no message left for her.
Let me know if there is anything else you need...
Thank you SO MUCH, everyone, for all your very kind and wonderful help...Emily and the colts will really appreciate this...
Warmly,
Aimee
Hay for Horses
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Post by hayforhorses - The Food Angel on Feb 15, 2007 23:16:30 GMT -5
Hi, everyone,
So far, I was able to find 3 bales of Eastern grass hay and 5 bales of local grass hay which can be given to the three adult horses (Emily also has to provide the hay for them even though they were moved to another facility to be away from the Strangles)....
So, we still need Alfalfa Hay...
What do you all think of feeding Alfalfa Cubes to the sick colt? Are these something that he could even eat? It's been a long time since I was buying horse feed and the Alfalfa Cubes are new to me...I did hear, though, that horses have choked on them? Maybe if the cubes are broken down the colt could eat them?
Thanks, everyone!
Aimee
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Post by wendyp on Feb 15, 2007 23:37:09 GMT -5
If the sick colt has strangles, he probably isn't going to be very interested in eating much of anything for awhile........I would wet down the equine senior with warm water and make kind of a mush, and see if he will eat that. Does the colt have a fever? She might need to give him some bute in order to keep him comfortable enough to eat and drink...she could call her vet and ask if it was okay, and the dosing......then let me know - I might have some paste I could overnight to her.
Most senior feeds are alfalfa based, and are a complete feed, so adding extra alfalfa in the form of cubes or pellets, might not be necessary. You can add warm water to the alfalfa pellets and they will soften and swell.
WendyP/Bend, OR
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Post by hayforhorses - The Food Angel on Feb 16, 2007 0:05:16 GMT -5
Thank you so much, wendyp....your info is very helpful...Emily has been turning the Senior Feed into a mush...and, he eats a little hay but not much... The colt has stopped his nasal discharge but the neck is still hot and hard...the vet is going to take him off the Penicillin tomorrow and see what happens...he says he may have to catherize him to do some draining... I will ask her about the bute...I'll get back to you, maybe not til tomorrow, though... Thank you so much, Aimee If the sick colt has strangles, he probably isn't going to be very interested in eating much of anything for awhile........I would wet down the equine senior with warm water and make kind of a mush, and see if he will eat that. Does the colt have a fever? She might need to give him some bute in order to keep him comfortable enough to eat and drink...she could call her vet and ask if it was okay, and the dosing......then let me know - I might have some paste I could overnight to her. Most senior feeds are alfalfa based, and are a complete feed, so adding extra alfalfa in the form of cubes or pellets, might not be necessary. You can add warm water to the alfalfa pellets and they will soften and swell. WendyP/Bend, OR |
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Post by hayforhorses - The Food Angel on Feb 16, 2007 0:09:30 GMT -5
Hi, Ebo...yes, it is okay to cross post...just be sure to keep her last name and physical address private, though, as she has requested...she just doesn't want it posted publicly...but, you can share the info through emails... Thank you so much, ebo...I really appreciate you helping... Aimee Aimee--Can you give us the name and phone number of her feed store, so that we could pay for feed!? I've learned that many places will let you call in an order with your credit card, and then the needy owner can pick it up. We'd also need Emily's full name as well. With your permission, I'll cross post this. |
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Post by ebo on Feb 16, 2007 1:58:34 GMT -5
I think that hay pellets are easier to use in a situation like this one. You can make a mash out of them if your soak them in warm (or cold) water; there's no waste; They're easy to store; and they're considerably cheaper than cubes.
The only advantage I can see to calling a direct order into the feed store is that more money goes toward the feed instead of to paypal. But the two-for-one coupons are a great deal. If Emily doesn't want details posted, maybe those that would rather can send money to Aimee or Quatzie, either one.
I laff everytime I read "Boring", Oregon. Hope they didn't name it after some poor (boring)family.
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Post by quatzie on Feb 16, 2007 14:34:44 GMT -5
I talked to Emily this morning she is so happy folks are going to help her. She is currently using Alfalfa pellets for the colts. I would like to purchase some feed for the foals this weekend and make a delivery to her. So, if anyone would like to help out please do so. OR please make a donation directly to the vet or feed store ..
Jeannie ... PS I am also take donations for food for her..
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Post by earlybp on Feb 16, 2007 14:58:51 GMT -5
Quatzie- That's awesome!
I talked with Emily this morning. I am dropping off the grass hay, and a bag of equus senior tomorrow morning .
I have to run out to Eagle Creek to get Bert's Bute, and I have to get grain for my guys anyway. If anybody wants to call Eagle Creek Feed and buy some equus senior or baby feed, I'd be happy to pick it up and drop it off as well.
Also, if you live in the Boring/Eagle Creek/Gresham/Oregon City/Canby/Aurora area, and want me to pick anything up to take to Emily, I'd be happy to stop by.
Modified to add: I should really lean to read the whole thread before jumping in. It's probably easier for folks to just donate to Barton feed.
I don't want to add any confusion here. I'm just going to be in the area, and so if I can help out I will.
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Post by quatzie on Feb 16, 2007 15:02:45 GMT -5
Thank you .... Thank you ... I am so happy to hear that .. This board is the greatest .. I love it when we work together to help folks out..
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Post by earlybp on Feb 16, 2007 15:11:23 GMT -5
Aw shucks. It's nuthin'. I think Emily's great for sticking with this. It can't be easy.
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Post by hayforhorses - The Food Angel on Feb 17, 2007 1:38:25 GMT -5
Hi, wendyp, Emily said that she had the colt on bute for 4 weeks and then weaned him off it and the vet said he doesn't want the colt on bute anymore...but, thanks for your concern and offering the bute... Warmly, Aimee If the sick colt has strangles, he probably isn't going to be very interested in eating much of anything for awhile........I would wet down the equine senior with warm water and make kind of a mush, and see if he will eat that. Does the colt have a fever? She might need to give him some bute in order to keep him comfortable enough to eat and drink...she could call her vet and ask if it was okay, and the dosing......then let me know - I might have some paste I could overnight to her. Most senior feeds are alfalfa based, and are a complete feed, so adding extra alfalfa in the form of cubes or pellets, might not be necessary. You can add warm water to the alfalfa pellets and they will soften and swell. WendyP/Bend, OR |
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Post by hayforhorses - The Food Angel on Feb 17, 2007 1:45:15 GMT -5
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Post by cybercat on Feb 17, 2007 1:53:16 GMT -5
Jeannie or Aimee, do you know what grocery store Emily shops at? We could possibly get a gift card for her to use for food purchases.
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Post by hayforhorses - The Food Angel on Feb 17, 2007 2:09:34 GMT -5
I don't know, but, I will ask her tomorrow...thanks so much for considering her... Warmly, Aimee Jeannie or Aimee, do you know what grocery store Emily shops at? We could possibly get a gift card for her to use for food purchases. |
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Post by hayforhorses - The Food Angel on Feb 17, 2007 14:29:12 GMT -5
Hi, there, everyone...looks like we have SUNSHINE today! Wonderful! It does perk up my emotions a bit...bet the horses love the sun on their backs... Emily buys her groceries at the Fred Meyer in Oregon City...she says that there is only one Fred Meyer in Oregon City... A Bridget who emailed me a few days ago is at Emily's right now as I write, delivering 5 bales of western Oregon grass hay. She says "My horses like it. I’d say it’s medium quality, not super-green, but not too stemmy either." Emily said that Bridget also dropped off a bag of Equus Senior Feed. And, another woman, who anwered my Craigslist post, is donating 3 bales of Eastern hay, but, this will probably not happen until Monday or Tuesday as she says she is donating it w/o her hubby's knowledge  Aimee Jeannie or Aimee, do you know what grocery store Emily shops at? We could possibly get a gift card for her to use for food purchases. |
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Post by hayforhorses - The Food Angel on Feb 17, 2007 14:35:49 GMT -5
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Post by wendyp on Feb 17, 2007 19:58:42 GMT -5
Did I miss something? Why would you want to close Bobbie down just because a couple of horses from there got strangles? Strangles is everywhere, and tends to hit the old, the young, and the stressed, the hardest. If Bobbie is a legitimate rescue, then I see no reason to try to shut her down.............Bobbie was honest enough to contact you and tell you that the colts came from her place............ I realize strangles is serious, but for *most* horses, it just isn't that big of a deal. If the colts did not get prompt veterinary attention, then that might be why they are having a hard time fighting it - or their immune systems may have already been compromised - and I don't agree with Bobbie giving them a 125 way vaccination when they may already be sick (but don't get me started on that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) - but if she is helping more than harming, then let her be.
Shutting her down seems awfully harsh...........Please think this over, and go visit her before you make such strong suggestions................
Just my very humble opinion............
WendyP/Bend, OR
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Post by Tockita on Feb 17, 2007 23:18:46 GMT -5
I agree Wendy strangles is annoying, but not a reason to close someone down. Maybe she wasn't aware they were exposed since she had them such a short time.
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Post by bridgetah on Feb 18, 2007 0:10:35 GMT -5
I agree Wendy strangles is annoying, but not a reason to close someone down. Maybe she wasn't aware they were exposed since she had them such a short time. Here we go again! This could happen to any rescue. Let's not have this sort of thing going on on this board. Please! |
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Post by earlybp on Feb 18, 2007 13:21:25 GMT -5
Aimee-
I'm that Bridget. I stopped by yesterday, and dropped off the hay and a bag of equus senior. Emily is really nice. You can tell that she feels desperately stuck here, and is trying her best to make this work out. I saw the colts from a distance, and they look like they are feeling pretty good. They looked alert, and were playing with each other.
Emily mentioned that she is having to board her adult horses. I am sure that there are a number of people from around this area who could take in a horse for a month or two. I could, but I have no way of hauling the horse to my farm, and I wouldn't want to use Emily's horse trailer as I'm concerned that it might still be contaminanted. Any ideas here?
I know Bonnie a little bit, and I think she's the kind of person who will manage strangles to the nth degree. If there's a strangles strain in her barn, she'll do everything it takes to get rid of it. I think she honestly didn't know, and she feels terrible about it. There's no reason to talk about shutting her down, especially considering the # of horses that gal has single-handedly saved from slaughter.
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Post by hayforhorses - The Food Angel on Feb 18, 2007 17:08:22 GMT -5
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Post by earlybp on Feb 18, 2007 17:43:49 GMT -5
Hmmm....I don't see any anger here. I see a number of people who are asking you to not go after a rescue that has done a lot of good in this area.
Most of us have a bad taste in our mouths from another message board, where somebody went off on a rescue, and caused a lot of problems. We draw the line at abuse and neglect, but I would venture that most of us believe that folks in horse rescue are trying to do the right thing, and we will give the benefit of the doubt, and then we will try negotiating before we try to have them shut down. You are probably feeling some tension from that previous experience that we went through.
None of us want you to go anywhere. We're glad that you are here.
It is really difficult to judge tone on a message board.
Not all rescues QT. Should they? Yeah, probably, but that also fundamentally raises the cost of the rescue, and the number of horses that rescue can save.
If you get a horse, and you don't know its recent history, you risk infecting your horses if you turn that horse out without QT'ing it yourself.
If I were Emily, I would have done the same thing that she did. So, I'm not blaming her. Nor am I blaming you for wanting to see right done by horses.
I think this board could be a good resource for you, and the work that you do.
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Post by cybercat on Feb 18, 2007 18:13:20 GMT -5
Aimee, please don't leave the group...we are very sensitized to difficult subjects due to our past BB history...this is something like our fourth re-vamped board in two years...and you cannot be expected to know our past and the difficulties we have shared on these boards.
If anything, I think there was an over-reaction and misunderstanding from the start to your question. As we have gotten to know you, we who have followed your posts and concerns know the type of personality you are. And I don't think saber-rattling or trouble making is part of your makeup. And the folks who answered your post with a bit of alarm are also good people, just perhaps not thinking of how the printed word looks compared to the spoken words. So hang in there, we are just starting to define who we are as this group, and how we want to handle the issues that come up, OK? And it doesn't help that people are on edge about the truck at the feedlot. PM me if you have any questions or concerns.
Leanne
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Post by Admin on Feb 18, 2007 18:19:30 GMT -5
This is an example of quarantining your horse from WHEREVER you get it BEFORE introducing it into a herd!
Auction, showbarn, racetrack, feedlot, private party. It doesn't matter.
It is the buyers responsibility to do so. It is YOUR horse and YOUR herd.
Please do not take offense to postings. NO ONE here is allowed to bash a rescue period.
You are a valuble resource to many and we appreciate you being here and the important work YOU are doing!
We are a group of very passionate people ;D
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