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Post by starryhorse on Mar 16, 2009 22:47:55 GMT -5
Apparently Shelly (Sunlightlady) has submitted her letter of recognition to the current CBER BOD which consists of Shelley Dunaway (President), Kathy Taylor (Treasurer), and Diane Repp (Secretary).
I wonder why this happened.
A few days ago she said this: For those of you who did not know. I have been absent for the last couple of weeks. Due to the need for soul searching and regrouping on where CBER is going and the lack of unity as a group has raised concerns with me. The BOD is trying really hard to make things run smoothly and without any problems. There are issues that need to be worked out. I honestly hope that we can do so. All personal adgends need to be put aside and we need to regroup for the betterment of the organization. What happens at the meeting will have a impact on where CBER is going and what the BOD needs from its hard working volunteers. Some of the tasks will need to be rerouted to allow everyone the ability to do their jobs effectively and efficently. The need to full accountiabilty is neccessary. There have been to many lapses in information and this needs to stop. The continued lack of communication is hindering CBER's growth and ability to work well with the changing economy. I hope that everyone involved will stand behind the BOD, Sam and I as we work to fix these problems.
And then today, she says this: After much thought I would like to send in the letter of resignation from the Board of Directors, President, Application Director and Processor positions. The direction of CBER right now is not where I think I will be effective and comfortable. There was a time where I thought we were working as a group towards a better foundation. Unfortunately, it has not been so. I am not sure that the future CBER will be able to fix the issues that plague the organization. I will still visit the site to say hi to friends but will no longer be involved in the daily running. Melis will be a good application director I have faith in her ability to do this position. The more I have thought the less I think I was put in the position to make changes it seemed more of a diversion for the organization.
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Post by caryn on Mar 16, 2009 22:57:24 GMT -5
I don't know who the next Pres will be, but I am glad that Shelley is getting out. I feel for her. The decision to leave CBER is a difficult one. I haven't spoken with her in quite a while, so I don't know her reasons for leaving.
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Post by dingo on Mar 16, 2009 23:58:08 GMT -5
I was told that Aleta quit as well.
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Post by starryhorse on Mar 17, 2009 0:02:57 GMT -5
Yes. And the previous vice president, Wendy, also quit a little while ago.
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Post by jenm on Mar 17, 2009 0:47:53 GMT -5
The need to full accountiabilty is neccessary. There have been to many lapses in information and this needs to stop. The continued lack of communication.... And then today, she says this: i There was a time where I thought we were working as a group towards a better foundation. Unfortunately, it has not been so. I am not sure that the future CBER will be able to fix the issues that plague the organization. Um...raise your hand if you know EXACTLY what she means...
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Post by TashGaia on Mar 17, 2009 0:53:17 GMT -5
*raises hand*
Over the last year every single person who used to volunteer with CBER has left with variations of these words on their lips.
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Post by lorsadoon on Mar 17, 2009 7:31:04 GMT -5
Is that posted on the CBER BB?
I wonder who will come to their senses next? I feel bad for the people who had high hopes for changing CBER, they must feel awful when they come to the realization their help is not truly wanted or appreciated. They are only on a merry go round run by a person who is going to throw them off the ride when she gets tired of them.
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Post by rodeo51 on Mar 17, 2009 10:22:57 GMT -5
Shelly finally figured out she really wasn't the Pres.
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Post by luvmypaints on Mar 17, 2009 10:23:54 GMT -5
Apparently Shelly (Sunlightlady) has submitted her letter of recognition to the current CBER BOD which consists of Shelley Dunaway (President), Kathy Taylor (Treasurer), and Diane Repp (Secretary). I wonder why this happened. A few days ago she said this: For those of you who did not know. I have been absent for the last couple of weeks. Due to the need for soul searching and regrouping on where CBER is going and the lack of unity as a group has raised concerns with me. The BOD is trying really hard to make things run smoothly and without any problems. There are issues that need to be worked out. I honestly hope that we can do so. All personal adgends need to be put aside and we need to regroup for the betterment of the organization. What happens at the meeting will have a impact on where CBER is going and what the BOD needs from its hard working volunteers. Some of the tasks will need to be rerouted to allow everyone the ability to do their jobs effectively and efficently. The need to full accountiabilty is neccessary. There have been to many lapses in information and this needs to stop. The continued lack of communication is hindering CBER's growth and ability to work well with the changing economy. I hope that everyone involved will stand behind the BOD, Sam and I as we work to fix these problems.And then today, she says this: After much thought I would like to send in the letter of resignation from the Board of Directors, President, Application Director and Processor positions. The direction of CBER right now is not where I think I will be effective and comfortable. There was a time where I thought we were working as a group towards a better foundation. Unfortunately, it has not been so. I am not sure that the future CBER will be able to fix the issues that plague the organization. I will still visit the site to say hi to friends but will no longer be involved in the daily running. Melis will be a good application director I have faith in her ability to do this position. The more I have thought the less I think I was put in the position to make changes it seemed more of a diversion for the organization. Starryhorse, you must be a staff member for CBER because from what I understand that was posted for Staff only. Correct me if I'm wrong please and if your'e not staff how did you find out about this?
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Post by TashGaia on Mar 17, 2009 10:35:23 GMT -5
Starryhorse, you must be a staff member for CBER because from what I understand that was posted for Staff only. Correct me if I'm wrong please and if your'e not staff how did you find out about this? Well, horseylilbrat, as a CBER staff member you would know. Thank you for confirming the placement of where this post was located on the CBER board for those of us who have been searching for it over there. At least no one can deny the legitimacy or accuracy of it now
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Post by luvmypaints on Mar 17, 2009 11:28:07 GMT -5
Starryhorse, you must be a staff member for CBER because from what I understand that was posted for Staff only. Correct me if I'm wrong please and if your'e not staff how did you find out about this? Well, horseylilbrat, as a CBER staff member you would know. Thank you for confirming the placement of where this post was located on the CBER board for those of us who have been searching for it over there. At least no one can deny the legitimacy or accuracy of it now thats right Tash, I'm a staffer over at CBER and I have nothing to hide! I just had to change my screen name over here because for some reason you folks didn't want me here under my original name! why do you even waste your time "searching" at the CBER BB? Don't you have enough to deal with here without always trying to raise hate and discontent amongst the CBER members? I asked a legitimate question and was hoping for an honest answer, but since I've been "found", LOL, I probably won't get one or even be allowed to log on anymore, right Tash?! I just wish that you and your followers would be more open as to their intentions and identities when they're lurking on the CBER BB, you know, just come on out and ask what they want to know instead of waiting for the more "interesting" things to come up and then report back here to you, where everything gets blown way out of proportion! Well I'm going to leave now so thanks for allowing me the pleasure of visiting your fine board! its been a real joy, LOL!
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Post by TashGaia on Mar 17, 2009 11:30:12 GMT -5
LOL, you were *found* over a month ago and weren't banned, so not sure what you are going off about...
But I do think it is funny that you criticize folks here for using alters on your board when you and your friends are doing the same here.
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Post by luvmypaints on Mar 17, 2009 11:37:41 GMT -5
LOL, you were *found* over a month ago and weren't banned, so not sure what you are going off about... But I do think it is funny that you criticize folks here for using alters on your board when you and your friends are doing the same here. UMMM didn't I just say that I had to change my name because you blocked me as "horseylibrat" well I guess I didn't exactely say that, but it's what I meant because when I first came to RO I did use that name but was quickly denied access and I wasn't criticizing anyone at all, just stating a fact simple and true! If ya'all want to know something just come on out and ask! I did!
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Post by TashGaia on Mar 17, 2009 11:40:43 GMT -5
So then, why don't you tell me... who is your staff traitor?
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Post by luvmypaints on Mar 17, 2009 11:45:39 GMT -5
So then, why don't you tell me... who is your staff traitor? LOL, I asked first
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Post by TashGaia on Mar 17, 2009 11:55:14 GMT -5
I don't know. Why don't you give a list of all the staff members and we can try to figure it out?
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Post by luvmypaints on Mar 17, 2009 12:00:41 GMT -5
I don't know. Why don't you give a list of all the staff members and we can try to figure it out? Oh Tash, your'e making me laugh this morning, thank you! I won't be like past CBER members and share that kind of stuff, thats not the way I operate. If you want to know then why don't you just go on over to our board and ask, LOL! I'm sure they would enjoy a good laugh too ;D
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Post by rodeo51 on Mar 17, 2009 13:19:33 GMT -5
So, I wonder when the rest of the volunteers are going to figure out that it's Sam who really runs the show. She didn't stop being president, it was all part of the ruse.
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Post by mickeyfan3 on Mar 17, 2009 14:22:19 GMT -5
Well, Lilbrat hasn't accepted that fact yet. She may never wake up and smell the poisoned coffee...there are some that never did. Although some of those people are fine with returning horses to the lot for a "better" one, or sending them to Wayne or Oly once homes aren't found.
They're just going to get more puppets to do what she wants, hide the fact that she's sending horses back to Chuck, Wayne, Oly, returning horses for more "preferred" ones, marking up costs, etc.
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Post by mickeyfan3 on Mar 17, 2009 14:23:56 GMT -5
I nominate Karan!!!!!!
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Post by michelle on Mar 17, 2009 14:56:44 GMT -5
...The need to full accountiabilty is neccessary. There have been to many lapses in information and this needs to stop. The continued lack of communication is hindering CBER's growth....... I am not sure that the future CBER will be able to fix the issues that plague the organization. .... [/size][/quote] I feel badly for Shelley. It is a familiar situation. Anyone that has EVER been involved with cber for any length of time knows who is in charge, and that it is impossible to change anything if Sam doesn't want it to change. Most of us already surmised that Shelley was made pres to be a scapegoat/figurehead, to take the heat off of Sam /protect her from the inurement laws. The last sentence quoted above says it all. Has anyone been reading about the strangles problem cber is having? Apparently, horses are being sent to their homes after 30 days "QT", then coming down with strangles. Considering the incubation time, it would appear that they are actually CATCHING strangles from "Camelot". Changing QT locations, or not listing horses, or foregoing QT to certain people will not happen because of the $$$ loss. It is unfortunate for those that have to pay for over-priced QT only to have to pay for more meds and vet bills when they get the horse home.
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Post by nightrosearab on Mar 17, 2009 15:45:02 GMT -5
Lilbrat's trying a classic diversionary tactic. She ought to actually spend some time and read through those posts of Shelley's. Shelley is not just quitting - she is quitting with reason. She states that she is unhappy with the direction that CBER is going and that she feels that it cannot be fixed. She also alludes to the fact that she was not made president for honest reasons, but rather to simply take the heat off of Sam. It is CBER who needs to be honest with their intentions because where there is smoke there is always fire and CBER's smoke is toxic.
I do find it ironic that horses are getting strangles while in QT at Camelot. Once upon a time there were half a dozen different QT facilities and people could QT at their own homes if they chose to do so. That all stopped when there was an accident at one of the other QT facilities and strangles was spread to a non-CBER horse. This caused Sam to insist that all QT from then on be not only mandatory but limited to Camelot Farms (a self-serving and illegal requirement). Now she is guilty of the very thing upon which her mandatory QT was based off of. Anyone who has ever actually been to Camelot Farms can tell you that it is NOT set up for QT. Yes, there are individual pens and those pens are well spaced, however horses are not penned individually they are penned in groups (as is evident by the sheer number of horses coming out of QT with injuries or death caused by other horses). Not only that but the ground cover of those so called QT pens consists of wood chips that are not changed for many many months. Why wood chips, you ask? Well, it does a wonderful job of soaking up moisture and preventing mud - but moisture is not the only thing that it soaks up. It also soaks up germs and easily communicates them to all subsequent horses - a veritable Strangles breeding ground.
To think, this rescue is requiring their rescue horses who already have their health compromised to be kept in such conditions and exposed to strangles and whatever other diseases are lingering in Camelot's ground - all for the profit of one indivual. QT at Camelot Farms is no longer in the best interest of CBER, the adopters, or most of all the horses themselves.
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Post by mickeyfan3 on Mar 17, 2009 15:53:29 GMT -5
Well, you can bet that she won't drop the QT requirement. Although anyone adopting from CBER ought to insist on it.
Do they have the strangles outbreak noted on their bulleting board? Stupid question, I know.....probably not! Either that or it's all the more reason to pay for QT!!!
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Post by kellyd on Mar 17, 2009 16:37:55 GMT -5
Lilbrat's trying a classic diversionary tactic. She ought to actually spend some time and read through those posts of Shelley's. Shelley is not just quitting - she is quitting with reason. She states that she is unhappy with the direction that CBER is going and that she feels that it cannot be fixed. She also alludes to the fact that she was not made president for honest reasons, but rather to simply take the heat off of Sam. It is CBER who needs to be honest with their intentions because where there is smoke there is always fire and CBER's smoke is toxic. I do find it ironic that horses are getting strangles while in QT at Camelot. Once upon a time there were half a dozen different QT facilities and people could QT at their own homes if they chose to do so. That all stopped when there was an accident at one of the other QT facilities and strangles was spread to a non-CBER horse. This caused Sam to insist that all QT from then on be not only mandatory but limited to Camelot Farms (a self-serving and illegal requirement). Now she is guilty of the very thing upon which her mandatory QT was based off of. Anyone who has ever actually been to Camelot Farms can tell you that it is NOT set up for QT. Yes, there are individual pens and those pens are well spaced, however horses are not penned individually they are penned in groups (as is evident by the sheer number of horses coming out of QT with injuries or death caused by other horses). Not only that but the ground cover of those so called QT pens consists of wood chips that are not changed for many many months. Why wood chips, you ask? Well, it does a wonderful job of soaking up moisture and preventing mud - but moisture is not the only thing that it soaks up. It also soaks up germs and easily communicates them to all subsequent horses - a veritable Strangles breeding ground. To think, this rescue is requiring their rescue horses who already have their health compromised to be kept in such conditions and exposed to strangles and whatever other diseases are lingering in Camelot's ground - all for the profit of one indivual. QT at Camelot Farms is no longer in the best interest of CBER, the adopters, or most of all the horses themselves. I adopted a horse thru CBER and was forced to pay for quarantine, pay for over-priced medication, pay to have the horse held, paid extra over the top fees for everything. Ten days after I got her home, strangles! My vet feels that the probability is that it was from being infected while in quarantine. Because I was forced to submit and pay for inadequate quarantine, I am going to the Attorney General, BBB, and an attorney to try and recoup the money that was extorted from me. I appreciate all the help and information I have received from past and present volunteers. It has been enlightening, to say the least. Devalz, Did you recently adopt a horse from cber that developed strangles? How is the horse doing now?
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Post by devalz on Mar 17, 2009 17:07:17 GMT -5
Yes, it was recent. I shouldn't get into the details until everything is resolved, one way or the other.
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Post by beckybee on Mar 17, 2009 17:11:31 GMT -5
Ten days after I got her home, strangles! My vet feels that the probability is that it was from being infected while in quarantine. Who was your transporter? Sam can (and has) claimed that the horse was infected from the trailer ride.
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Post by devalz on Mar 17, 2009 17:56:17 GMT -5
I'm sure she will try. There are several others in the same boat however, with different transport.
From what I have heard from a friend of mine, any challenge to the qt monopoly is quickly shot down, without even discussion. She also said that the cber PTB are making it hard for regular volunteers to even come to the meeting in April, especially if there is any difference of opinion on anything. Since it is impossible to make any positive changes, people are just quitting in disgust.
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Post by mickeyfan3 on Mar 17, 2009 18:36:33 GMT -5
I'm sure she will try. There are several others in the same boat however, with different transport. From what I have heard from a friend of mine, any challenge to the qt monopoly is quickly shot down, without even discussion. She also said that the cber PTB are making it hard for regular volunteers to even come to the meeting in April, especially if there is any difference of opinion on anything. Since it is impossible to make any positive changes, people are just quitting in disgust. What? No more phone conferencing in? Oh yeah, that costs money!
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Post by beckybee on Mar 17, 2009 18:58:23 GMT -5
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Post by caryn on Mar 17, 2009 19:41:20 GMT -5
Yes. And the previous vice president, Wendy, also quit a little while ago. I'm glad to hear that Wendy D is out of it. I've been a bit worried about her continued involvement. She's a wonderful person. I would hate to see her get in trouble for Sam's actions just because she was on the BOD. I'm also glad to hear Aleta quit. I did not get to know her well, but she seemed like a really nice, caring person that was trying to help the horses. It's hard to give up and resign, but I reallly think it is the best decision. I don't see how anyone can fix CBER with Sam as the President. MTA: I realize that Sam "resigned" from being President, but she's still in control...
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